I didn't say you were puritan... I asked why you know better than the puritans. I want to know why you think you're in the clear with god when they (and many many other types of christian throughout history, they were just the first example I thought of) who are reading the same bible believed that you are in fact already led astray by satan. But when a person sidesteps my questions twice I just assume I won't be getting an answer.[b said:Quote[/b] (Outsiders71 @ Aug. 07 2005,8:50)]All this talk about my views being puritan, facist, or even satanic is amusing. I don't call you Pagan when you are sinning. You can choose to believe whatever you want, it's your free will. However you have now been told the truth on where God stands for masturbation and sex before marriage. If you choose to ignore God's will and continue to justify them in your eyes, that's on you. Just remember come judgement God is more forgiving to the people who don't know then then people who do know and act against his will.
no, but there's this little thing(s) called protection/contraceptives. Those things don't happen because of sex before marriage, but because people are irresponsible. The issue isn't about sex before marriage, as most people have sex before they're married, it's about responsability.[b said:Quote[/b] ]do you think it is wrong for men to father many children and then do absolutely nothing to raise them?
is it ok for them to father multiple children with multiple women, then walk away and do nothing to support those children, financially or emotionally?
what causes that problem??
sex before marriage being looked at as "ok"..thats what.
so now it's also a sin to type masturbation?[b said:Quote[/b] ]As for mastur*****, it is not specifically said by God that it is sin
that link is like super biased. I don't really care what they say. here, some good links: ...errr... well, nevermind...I don't think I can post them here, but there's wikipedia and others. If you want the links, PM me (or search)[b said:Quote[/b] ]Here's a good link about why masturbation is not good:
http://www.newjerusalem.com/bepure.htm
[b said:Quote[/b] ]There is no credible scientific or medical evidence that manual masturbation is damaging to either one's mental or physical health, except in cases where there are pre-existing conditions like Peyronie's disease or phimosis.
[b said:Quote[/b] ]It is being increasingly recognised in mental health circles that masturbation can relieve depression and lead to a higher sense of self worth.
and there are more... (I just noticed allosaurz posted one link )[b said:Quote[/b] ]On July 16, 2003, an Australian research team led by Graham Giles of The Cancer Council published a medical study [2] which concluded that frequent masturbation by males may help prevent the development of prostate cancer. The study also indicated that this would be more helpful than ejaculation through sexual intercourse because intercourse can transmit diseases that may increase the risk of cancer instead. Another study came to similar conclusions in April 2004 [3]
is that supposed to be an insult? (calling someone pagan)[b said:Quote[/b] ]I don't call you Pagan when you are sinning.
well, why before you die? What about when you're being judged? If god is nice and just and blah blah, then he must let you ask forgiveness even after you're dead. I'll tell you this... if I die and find out I was wrong, I WILL ask for forgiveness[b said:Quote[/b] ]ok, let me ask you this, if i live a life of sin, sex, and drugs (hypothetically), and before i die i ask for forgiveness blah blah blah and am truely sorry, will i go to heaven?
It exists in their imagination, and that can be powerful indeed. But if it existed for real, there'd have to be a hell of a lot of planes of existance, which all contradict each other, and even billions of the very same thing. I say there are billions of gods, each one for every person who believes in one (or more).[b said:Quote[/b] ]If enough people believe with all their hearts in one eyed one horned flying purple people eaters, does that mean that somewhere, somehow, one of them auctually exists?
Which god? I believe many god(s) have been proved that aren't real (to my satisfaction), but that doesn't mean that there aren't any real god(s) out there. That's why i'm agnostic and not atheist.[b said:Quote[/b] ]I mean If we proved God wasn't real (which we may have already done)
WTG![b said:Quote[/b] ]Religion and science should never mix. I believe Darwin
wow, some people (many times me) won't even read topics that are more than 3 pages long[b said:Quote[/b] ]Finally, 50 minutes after reading the bumper sticker I have finally finished reading 16 1/2 pages of forum
[b said:Quote[/b] ]People be careful when quoting the bible because literally the bible is a self-contradicting tumble of illogical mess. "An eye for an eye" means literally that if someone kills your spouse you kill their's. However the bible also says "thou shalt not kill".