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    Actually, the feds can step in without the consent of the local officials. Second, the local officials, including the mayor and governor BEGGED for federal help, I saw it live on TV in the days following the hurricane. Not that they are without blame - this disaster took a LOT of people blowing it and not doing their jobs. Clearly the local resources were overwhelmed in the aftermath, and it should have been easy to airlift some bottles of water and food to those who needed them.

    And it turns out the guys in charge of the federal agency charged with disaster management for all 300 million of us were just campaign cronies with no disaster management experience. Sorry, but nobody gets off the hook on this one. None of them can be trusted. This changes a lot more than 9/11 did in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (rattler_mt @ Sep. 10 2005,12:38)]England and Austrailia have proved that taking guns away from law abiding citizens is the best way in the world is the best way to raise the violent crime rate.
    Aaaah..no! In Europe (and UK is in Europe) we have about HALF the rate of murders you got in you great god blessed kindom of firearms! (irony mode...).

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    So the upsetting "Never in America" thing is about police taking guns to restore order, not corpses floating in the streets after the poor were abandoned Only in America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Quote (rattler_mt @ Sep. 10 2005,12:38)
    England and Austrailia have proved that taking guns away from law abiding citizens is the best way in the world is the best way to raise the violent crime rate.

    Aaaah..no! In Europe (and UK is in Europe) we have about HALF the rate of murders you got in you great god blessed kindom of firearms! (irony mode...).
    Nothing ironic about that Jan, it's true as far as I am aware.
    Rattler Mt where do you get a statement like that from, any actual figures or is it just wishful thinking?
    I would honestly like to see some facts to back up that statement.

    I shudder when I read articles like the one you have posted and I vervently hope Australia and Europe never go down that road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (JanW @ Sep. 10 2005,3:29)]
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (rattler_mt @ Sep. 10 2005,12:38)]England and Austrailia have proved that taking guns away from law abiding citizens is the best way in the world is the best way to raise the violent crime rate.
    Aaaah..no! In Europe (and UK is in Europe) we have about HALF the rate of murders you got in you great god blessed kindom of firearms! (irony mode...).
    Not in Australia either, I can guarantee you of that. I have never known anybody who owns a handgun and never known anybody who has been in a position that they should need one. I feel perfectly safe when I sleep at night without one.

    I shake my head and cringe when I hear some of you guys rant on about your guns. You can't keep them far enough away from me.

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    Interesting...you may be correct Rattler Mt.
    I try and have an open mind about things so I thought I'd do some looking around to see what I could find and most articles I found say are along the lines of the one here:

    Article on Australia vs USA crime rates

    This article has actual figures but there are plenty saying similar things.

    Cheers, Troy.

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    You should be very skeptical about gun control "statistics" because it's easy to twist them to mean what you want. They may not take into account how big the population is, population growth etc.
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    Quote[/b] ]Other numbers are often not factored into discussions. For example, in Australia knives are 2-3 times as likely to be used in robberies as a firearm.

    The numbers of legal versus illegal firearms, in areas with laws legislating proper gun ownership, are also glossed over. For example, 90% of all firearm related homicides in Australia are committed with unregistered firearms (since the 1995 & 1996 regulations)
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    Well our department along with all other departments in the US recieved a desparate SOS from Lousianna two days after the incident. They asked for all available and willing LEO's to come down and serve for a week to try and restore order. I just got back from a week down there, and wow it was wild. While I normally believe that we as a country are more safe by allowing non-felon citizens of the US to legally purchase, own, and carry firearms, this situation is slightly different. In the wake of all the destruction ( and I am referring to human destruction, not natures destruction) It is paramount that order is restored quickly. W/O the use of electricity it makes it virtually impossible to check to see if a person legally owns and can legally carry the firearm that we as LEO's encounter them with. So the safest, and quickest way to restore order is to remove all firearms and then give back those that were legally purcased and carried. There is no way of knowing if the person you encounter is legally carring there firearm or not, so in an attempt to make it slightly more safe for the LEO's we require that they all must be relenquished. It may not be the best way to go, and it certainly is not making everyone happy but we are more worried about saving lives at the moment. Whether the public likes they way we go about saving lives will have to be dealt with after the fact.

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