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    LLeopardGGecko: The tank is going to be a grow chamber or display case what ever you want to call it lol. I use all those lights at the moment in my current growbox. If you really think i can get by with less I might try to use just the flurex or just the 3-floros.

    PinguiculaMan: Sry let me see if I can explain it better.

    "Ok the plan is to tape off inside front of the tank and spray paint the rest of the inside flat black"
    I want the front glass to be see through so Im going to tape it off completely. I want the outside of the tank to look black. When you paint anything clear the first coat is what you will see from the opposite side.

    "Then tape the bottom also and paint the remaining inside walls flat white"
    Leaving the tape on the inside front wall. I also tape off the bottom of the inside after it's painted black. Then I paint the three untaped walls flat white.

    "The end product will hopefully have 3 sides and bottom painted black looking from the outside in. Then clear front and 3 flat white walls inside with a flat black bottom"
    When im done only the inside will be painted. No paint on the front glass, only black paint on the bottom, black paint first then white on both the sides and back glass of the tank.

    Also I'm going to be using clear glasses with a homemade drop-in net bottom pots to display the traps on all my utrics and my Genlisea violacea (giant). You have to block all the light to the water so traps will grow and alge wont. Thats why the bottom is left flat black. I dont want any light relfecting up into the glasses.
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    Thanks for the expanded explanation. It sounds like the front is going to remain transparent, the bottom will look flat black from inside and outside. All the other sides will appear black from the outside and flat white from the inside.

    I would keep as much light as you possibly can. Artificial light is the only kind that can easily provide higher PAR than natural light without the destructive heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Artificial light is the only kind that can easily provide higher PAR than natural light without the destructive heat.
    I don't know if that's entirely true. When I was just starting out with terrariums I used quite a bit of light from compact flourescents, which in turn made the heat in my tanks go up. This resulted in some very sad looking, cooked plants.

    Only use the extra light if you can keep the temps cool enough.

    Then again, you shouldn't listen to me, you should listen to Ping Man! I've seen your plants Ping Man and I need to be the one taking tips from YOU! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Artificial light is the only kind that can easily provide higher PAR than natural light without the destructive heat.
    I'm just curious as to what other types of light there is? That statement sounds like I have more options beyond artificial or natural. Don't get me wrong I may be missing something, but wouldn't the sun be the natural source, and then any other light source be artificial?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Artificial light is the only kind that can easily provide higher PAR than natural light without the destructive heat.
    I will rephrase the above statement:

    "Artificial light, primarily various fluorescent lamps and fixtures (though other artificial lighting systems could be assembled to provide similar benefits), can be configured to provide higher PAR (Photosynthetically Active Radiation) than natural light, without the damaging heat, intrinsic to natural light. However, the opposite can be true if you aren't careful how you configure your lighting."

    Bioluminescence, though most likely entirely unsuitable for plant growth is another "natural" light source. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smilie4.gif[/img]



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    Yeah, I thought of another natural light source right after I posted aswell, but I don't think lighting your plants with fire would work out well either.
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    PinguiculaMan: yep that was the plan. With the hood on everything will be flat white inside except the front glass. I concidered covering the outside or inside of the glass with foil, so i can remove it to view the plants. But my other half(wife) has gotten tired of some of my other grow related foil uses and inform me that no foil was to be used(period).LOL

    So Im looking into getting some of the new reflective window tint for cars. It reflects alot of light back its almost a mirror. I was thinking of applying it so the reflective side is facing in. That way I could still see in but most of the light gets reflected back inside the tank.

    LLeopardGGecko: I've got alot of indoor growing experience [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]
    Includeing a few successfull hydro grows. Thats why I was using a fan to keep temps down Im using the same fan and lights right now in my growbox. The temps are in the 80's tops. But we keep the house temps around 68'f all year long.
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    Unless your going to say its the same as the sun. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_o_32.gif[/img]
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