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    Alright guy's, I'm building a huge outdoor bog. Everything is in place now I just need plants for it. Thats were I need help b/c I dont know what all would survive year round. I live in Texas where I can keep Sarra's, VFT's, and Cobra lily's outdoor year round through dormancy and everything. I have a few VFT's and Sarra's in there now. I want to add lots of sundews, pings, and blatterworts but I don't know what to buy. So I ask for your direction, help me out guys.

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    sundews: capensis, rotundifolia, possibly tuberous(someone correct me)D. filiformis ssp. filiformis (Florida Giant) and maby some forked sundews

    pings: any WARM TEMPERATE pings are best(P. lusitanica will be very weedy and P. primuliflora)

    Utrics:U. sandesonii,U. livida,U. subulata,U. bisquamata, and U. dichotoma are all temperate terrestrials
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    What are your summer and winter temps (Highs/Lows/Days/Nights for both)?
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    Go for D. filiformis tracyi! The foliage is much nicer that filiformis filiformis. :) Try U. dichotoma first, too - they have nice purple/blue flowers that will contrast with the colors of the other genera you mentioned. If you get the other Utrics mentioned going in that space, I'm not sure U. dichotoma would hold it's own against the weedier species, based on my experience cultivating it. U. livida, bisquamata and sandersonii would be other good choices based on color. U. subulata is a nice plant but it has relatively ordinary yellow flowers; I don't think it'd stand out as well among the yellows and reds of Sarracenia and Darlingtonia flowers.
    I'd recommend a Drosera binata of some sort, and maybe one of the climbing tuberous Drosera like D. macrantha. There's another one that grows into a little treelike shrub every year, but I don't have my copy of The Savage Garden handy so I can't look it up. Do you have S. psittacina? It's a particularly striking, and low growing - if you have space for Pings and Drosera an S. psittacina might be a good addition. Some interesting Pings would be the erect and elongate species like P. vallisnerfolia and longifolia. Have you considered a water feature? A pool of water supposedly works well for Darlingtonia and some Sarracenia and in addition you could grow aquatic Utrics, Aldrovanda, and possibly even mats of Sphagnum.
    Best luck! You should post some pictures.
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    Right now day temps are in the 50's-60's range and in the summer temp's will be in the 90-100+ range. I plan to put all of the plants together in this bog so should I be worried about any one plant taking over? I want a nice well rounded bog year after year. Thanks for all the help so far guys, I am using your suggestions to make my list.

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    There are a few weedy species that could begin to dominate. D. capensis and U. subulata come to mind in particular. Utrics in general have a way of wandering, but U. subulata is supposedly particularly prolific. Likewise, you'll probably see the Drosera spreading, but D. capensis is one that's especially difficult to keep up with. If you're OK with rooting around in the bog digging weeds out, go ahead and put in whatever you want. Otherwise, the only things you really need to worry about are the plants that are known to be weedy.
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    Also D. rotundifolia, in addition to binata and filiformis.

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    The following would do well in Texas:
    D. brevifolia
    D. intermedia
    D. capillaris
    P. caerulea
    P. planifolia
    P. primuliflora
    P. lutea
    P. pillosa
    P. ionantha
    S. alata
    S. flava
    S. leucophylla
    S. minor
    S. oreophila
    S. psittacina
    S. purpurea
    S. rubra complex
    DON'T do capensis. Yer askin' fer it! D. binata spreads through underground runners too. Could be a problem. D. rotundifolia and d. anglica are cooler growers, and may, if you add them, appreciate a shaded area during the hottest part of your Texas day. Utrics are your call, but terrestrials might do well.
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