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    My terrarium idea

    I was wondering if I could use lava rock as a substate... I have no intentions of growing anything in it, except maybe some moss on top of it. It's purely for aesthetics and making it super easy to clean/never having to change it. Here's my plan...

    I'm gunna use a false bottom to take care of humidity. So... 2" pvc cuttings, and egg crate... Then I'm gunna use fiberglass window screen, an inch of charcoal to keep it fresh, another screen, and then a 1/2 inch of sand. Then I'm gunna take black pcv piping (6") and cut it just a wee tiny bit longer than the pot I'm using for the individual plants. (This is so I can remove pots w/o the rocks caving in and having to dig new holes for the pots, this will make life nice) I'll dig these into the sand a little to keep it secure. (Pretty much the whole purpose of the sand... maybe it'll have some sort of water filtering property?) And then I'll fill up to where the pots will be with lava rock. Then I'll fill it up with water.

    I think it'll look nice, the dark rocks should contrast the plants nicely. And a little moss will make it look even prettier. Also... if I want a certain plant to sit higher, or stay drier, I can cut a longer piece of pvc and fill the bottom of it with sand, lava rock, or anything to take up space really.

    Any thoughts, comments, and idea will be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks guys.

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    what size terrarium were you looking to build?

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    I'm probably gunna start with a 10 gallon. Maybe a 15 high so I can leave some sars in.

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    What about dormancy? And Sarrs will eventually get large enough not to fit in a 15 high.
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    The whole purpose of having the pvc pipe is too be able to take the pots out of the gravel w/o making a mess. So when something needs to go into dormancy I can take the pot out and move to somewhere it can be dormant, even if it's my refrigerator. Same deal with a plant gettng too tall. I can take the pot out and place it outside if the conditions are suitable and I can take care of it. And if not I'll give to someone who can.

    When plants are removed, I can grow new plants in the existing spot.

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    Where are you from? can you grow them outdoors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B Rob View Post
    The whole purpose of having the pvc pipe is too be able to take the pots out of the gravel w/o making a mess. So when something needs to go into dormancy I can take the pot out and move to somewhere it can be dormant, even if it's my refrigerator.
    That idea wont work for dormancy..
    because the plants need to be dormant BEFORE they go in the fridge..
    you cant just pluck them out of the terrarium and stick them in the fridge..they will die if you do.
    they wont get the proper dormancy cues in the terrarium..here is a quote from...myself!
    (this is handy! I have quoted this several times now!

    they remain outside ALL Summer, and then into Autumn..
    I keep them outdoors all through August, September and into October, as days and nights
    gradually fall into the 60's, 50's, 40's.. (15..10...5C)

    I wont even consider bringing them inside unless its going to fall below freezing
    or if there is a heavy frost forecast for overnight.
    This way, nature creates a natural dormancy for me!
    I dont have to do a thing about "making them go dormant"..
    they go dormant naturally through all of late summer and into autumn..
    then, by the time they are ready for the fridge,
    they are already fully "asleep" and are ready to continue that sleep in the fridge..

    Please note that the fridge does not cause or create the dormancy!
    it simply maintains the dormancy that was already started naturally by keeping the plants outdoors all season..the plants need to be already dormant before they go in the fridge.

    In my opinion, VFT's and Sarracenia should never be grown indoors or especially in terrariums..
    the climate inside a terrarium is just all-wrong for them..
    the climate is fine.. for a few months...but VFTs and Sarrs need very different climates at different times of year..

    Keeping VFTs and Sarrs in a terrarum is the same as trying to grow maple tree bonsai in a terrarium..
    you can replicate June, July and August ok in a terrarium..sunny and warm..but what about the other 9 months of the year?

    Maple trees need a gradually warming spring to come out of dormancy, a gradually warmer and sunnier summer, a gradually cooler and darker autumn, then a cold and dark winter to be fully dormant.

    ...cycle repeats...

    so do VFTs and Sarracenia.
    its not an option..its a necessity.

    If you grow a maple tree indoors it will die within a year...the non-changing environment of a terrarium will also eventually kill a VFT.

    VFTs need it warm and REALLY sunny in the summer..DIRECT sunlight..
    where can you find that? outdoors in the summer!
    Nature provides the perfect light for free..
    then you need gradually decreasing photoperiod and gradually decreasing temps from summer into autumn..
    where can you find that? outdoors..again nature does all the work for us.

    The only tricky season for those of us in the Northern states is the winter..Spring, Summer and Autumn are a breeze..just keep the plants outdoors April - October.
    but the plants need a COOL winter..the winter of South Carolina..
    but winters in the northern states are too severe and will kill them if the plants are left outdoors..

    If you have a cool basement or attic, or a garage that stays in the 40's (4-10C) all winter, thats fine
    for dormancy..or ideally, if you live in the southern US where winters are mild, just leave your plants outside 24/7/365! but right now I lack any of those conditions..hence, they are going in the fridge!
    http://gold.mylargescale.com/scottychaos/cp/page2.html

    IMO, (and in the opinion of just about everyone who has grown VFTs and Sarracenia for more than one year) VFTs and Sarracenia should NEVER be grown in terrariums..it just doesn't work...it doesnt work because you cant fight Nature. you must give her what she wants, or your plants will die.

    Scot

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    Way to ruin peoples dreams scotty!!!!


    haha jk.

    I appreciate the comment and the dormany thing makes sense. I didn't even think about that. But I'll try setting the lights to replicate what's going on outside. During the summer I'll put em outside and let them work into dormancy. And if that doesn't work... I suppose I'll leave out plants that need a dormancy till I can set up a bog. Aren't there tropical sars I could use? (I'm at a friends and savage gardens at my house)

    If not I'll get over it. I'll just have a tank of sundews and pings or something. I don't really care what's in the tank, I just want a little decoration in my room as well as some experience with cp's.

    Do any of you have thoughts about filling the whole tank with rocks?

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