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    Thanks for the replies. Now I just need to figure out how to keep the fixtures dry once I mount them under the racks I plan to use.

    Flip I am going to be going with flourescents because of heat and the ammount of lights I am going to be using before its said and done. 400 watts is about 11-12 flourescent tubes. I do not want the power bill to hit the roof when I start this room up. Using HPS or MH will heat the room up and then you cannot get as much in the room because of the distance you have to put the light. I should have mentioned flourescent fixtures. I am envisioning a realy good stocked room. Plus a bunch of seedlings. Also Flip, those light are saddly ineffeficient and loose lumens really fast compaired to flourescents.
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    well, you can duct cooling and it actually is very cool as the hot air is vented outside the room (mine uses a 4" ducting with an inline fan). And even with the lumen loss you still end up with more lumens in the long run 110,000 vs about 40,000 for a 8 buld t5). Also Utilizing light movers can be a good way for one to use one MH over a larger area. You can also use electronic ballasts vs. the magnetic ones. But you are right is electricity usage is one of teh concerns then flourescents can be a better option. I've always used MH and just prefere it over flourescents, I would have to use 24 flour. bulbs to get the same lumens if I went with t5's.

    If you're interested in t5s I think the compnay I linked to also sells them.
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    t5s or t8s doesn't matter as long as its a good setup. I have heard about the light movers and seen them , but that still spreads out over a horizontal space. In order to utilize the space I have, I have to be able to go vertical. So even if I wanted to use MH, I wouldn't be able to utilize the space effectively. I will start looking at the t-5 fixtures, but if they are as pricey as I think they are then I may just use the t-8 fixtures I can get for inexpensive at wal-mart or lowe's. When using a good reflector you can increase lumen produced from the fixture. But unfortunately those are the pricier fixtures. So I guess I will still look and debate. I have more time to think about it. I am just trying to get my ducks in order so I have some ideas. So Thanks Jess!
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    Would this fuxture work good on this shelving system? The fixture is only 10" wide according the the dimensions and 47" long. It should fit in between the shelving uprights since the shelve is 48" long. I am just concerned it is not wide enough for the shelves. Since they are 18" wide. Am I making a big deal about nothing? Will the plants on the shelve below get the amount of light needed? I was also looking at this fixture it is 49" long but should fit in between the shelving rails from front to back. It is slick looking It is wider than the other fixture and I am thinking it would be better for the shelving rack I want to use.

    The fixture is not that bad priced wither at $129 and that comes with two 6500K bulbs and two 3000K bulbs for growing and flowering, or you can get all of one type if you want. I was thinking about ordering the monster kit that comes with 2 fixtures and a total of 16 bulbs for $280.

    Now keep in mind I am still just starting to research this stuff. Do t-5 HO fixture really put out more light than the t-8 counter part with the same amount of bulbs. Are they worth using over t-8's? Since I know t-8 bulbs and fixtures are relatively inexpensive at Wal-mart and Lowe's. Are these a good price for t-5 fixtures and bulbs?

    I like the fact that is is just one fixture to hang under the shelve and it has all four lights in it. The add said it uses a high quality ballast that doesn't cold start the bulbs for improved lamp life. Where as the cheap fixtures may cold start or do not drive the lamps efficiently. This is all new to me and I am curious to know what other folks think of it.

    Jess thank again for the link.
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    I always say go big or go home! I started with VHO lighting, and it was better than NO but not nearly as good as MH. I am so happy with my MH! It can not be beat for intensity, but if you want color you had better go with T5's.

    The secret to T5's is the reflector. Thats why TEK lights are so expensive, because they have the best reflector. That fixture is cheap because it doesn't have individual reflectors, so you're wasting light. Even with a bad reflector, four (or whatever number) T5's are still better than four NO.

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    Well I gave you my explanation for not wanting MH. I cannot utilize my vertical space if I have a MH the shelves would block the light. I plan to have shelves upon shelves before i am done Clint. You folks obviously do not understand the caliber I am planning. So I need to be able to roll racks together. Almost like a rolling bench GH. So I need to use fluorescents no questions asked. And according to the literature fluorescents over time hold lumens longer than MH and at a better cost to run. So thats another factor.

    My question now is are t-5 lights that much better than t-8's. For the price of the fixture and bulbs. Is the plants that much better when grown with t-5 vs t-8's
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    Absolutely! Without question! Go look at Butch's pictures. Proof enough!

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    I don't see why those fixtures wouldn't work with those shelves. It should be a good setup. Maybe I'm not understanding your setup but what will you do when the plants start to grow taller and vine? As far as t5 vs t8, I would definatly go with the t5's if budget permits. You will definatly get a higher quality of growth assuming you compared the two with them using similar reflecters....

    Also you're right about the MH's loosing lumens compared to flour. but they have such a higher lumen output then the flours. to begin with that even when they do loose slowly loose lumens they can still output a intense amount of lumens. Plus its recoomended you change out bulbs every 12-16 months anyways to avoid loosing to many lumens to lamp fatigue....However each lighting have thier optimal application usage. If I wasn't able to use MH's for whatever reason I would definaly go with t5's.
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