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    Sorry, I did look at that post, and now that I read it is a bit more confusing. I do keep my drosera within several inches of the light and they are thriving (I have had them for several months now.) As I understand it, certain lowlander species, such as N. Bical, need a shorter photo period, as in their natural habits they are covered by trees and live deep in forests (At least that is how I understand it.) I know that others though grow in more open areas and thus prefer more light. So should I make the photoperiod shorter for the species that need it shorter, or go the standard 12-14 hours at 8 in above the plant. I was planning on having the lights hang at about 6-12 inches from the plants, and raise them as the plants grew. I am still new to this, and obviously need help. Thank you again.

    EDIT: I will try to get pics, just so you can see what I am dealing with. It still isn't finished, but maybe you could get a better idea as to what I am talking about.
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    Having the lights adjustable sounds like a fine idea. Normal fluorescent fixtures will not burn your plants even if really close, so the closer to the plants the better.

    There seems to be some confusion though on photoperiod, which is the amount of time the plant receives light each day. And light intensity which is the brightness of the light.

    The photoperiod/daylength is no shorter in the shadier regions of the forest, so all Nepenthes prefer a more equatorial daylength on the order of 13-14 hours.

    Yes some Nepenthes can be found in the forested areas where light is less intense but most are quite happy and do much better where they receive some full sun for at least part of the day. Including those that can also be found in shadier areas such as N. bicalcarata. Just because they can grow in these areas doesn't mean they prefer it. 4 - 4' tubes won't come even close to what these plants can experience in nature.
    Is that a Nepenthes in your pocket or you just happy to see me?

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    Ok, Thanks. That clears everything up. I now just need some pics to share. I finished covering it, and am seeing how well it heats up on its own. I also seeing if I need to cover the bottom of it as it is sitting on carpet which may absorb the humidity. Thanks again.
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    Hi,
    You wrote:
    I have designed it to be for lowlanders (bottom covered part)(I might keep them outside during summer) and Highlanders (top shelf uncovered.)

    You have it right "geographically", Lowlanders naturally grow in the lower regions (bottom shelf) and Highlanders grow higher in the mountains (hence the top shelf), however from an indoor growing chamber standpoint, it might not be the best way to setup.

    The lowlanders want more heat, day and night. The highlanders may want a bit cooler days (than the lowlanders) and certainly want cooler/cold nights with lots of night humidity. Intermediates, as their name implies, want something in between.

    Since heat rises, putting your highlanders on the top shelf may make cooling them down difficult, even if they are "sealed" out from the lowlanders. Cooling them down at night is necessary for true highlanders, so depending on your room conditions/temps, you might want to consider some sort of way to cool them down, or for the time being, stay with growing lowlanders and intermediates until you can build something more elaborate.

    Many people put their "cooler loving" plants on the bottom shelf, so the heat from the lamps that rises from each fixture on each shelf will be drawn up and away from them. It doesn't work for many plants (not cool enough), but there are a great number of plants you should be able to grow easily enough.

    To make a "one size fits all" grow chamber is more difficult than it may seem. If you look on the forum enough, you will see others trying to accomplish the same thng, and there are many good ideas that they all have to share.

    Unless you are one of those people lucky enough to live in a state/location where mother nature does most of the work for you, then creating the right/necessary environment will be a challenge.

    Good Luck.

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    To make things clear, Are you thinking that both the top and bottom are enclosed? the top is simply a shelf that is sitting on the top. when it comes time for me to, I am planning on putting a light there. the bottom shelf is completely covered with clear plastic to hold heat and humidity. I also have a small heater and humidifier that I will turn on when need be. like I said the top is completely open and should experience a nice night time drop as it gets pretty cool during the winter and the a/c makes my room approx 10 degrees cooler when the door is shut.

    with that said, does it sound like it might work?
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    Hi "Not Really Bob"!

    Whether it works or not can only be determined thru experience!
    Just keep a plants needs in mind, and if you see a plant "declining"
    try to adjust what you are doing/providing it.
    YOU control the Water, Light, Temperature, Humidity, "Soil" components, etc.

    Experience is the best teacher.

    Again, good luck.

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