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    Planning on getting a 29 Gallon Terrarium but not sure of what I will do for lighting

    This weekend I am planning on getting a 29 Gallon terrarium. It is 30 inches wide x 12 inches deep x 18 inches tall. I'm just not sure what kind of lighting I would put over it. The total room in the wall I am putting it in is 35 inches wide and 24 inches tall. This means I'll have to get something that is shorter than 3 feet and doesn't protrude more than 5-6 inches above the terrarium. I've done some looking around in the forums, but all I can find are 4 foot lights. Recommendations?

    Also, this is going to be only for Lowland Nepenthes. No other plants.

    Edit- Mission complete!




    Not much going on right now. I plan to add more now that I have a nice environment for lowlanders.



    In the middle center are two new N. Amp's that arrived in absolutely horrible condition due to poor packaging a week ago. The one on the left is most likely going to die. In the back is a Rafflesiana that hasn't shown any growth at all in a Highland environment in a months time. Hopefully that will change. On the sides are various germinating seeds.

    Also, humidity isn't usually that high. It's normally around 77%. Pictures were taken right after misting.

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    Thats a ruff one.
    I think you can find 3 ft shop lights. mine are 4 foot by 6 inches so those wont work, but I think a set up like mine with 3ft lights would work well for you. Try going to your local home depo, mugukins, ect and get some one to show you all the lights.
    Both of the places i went (homedepo/mugukins) had many, many different light strips that were not shown on there site. in fact, the ones i got were not on home depo's we site but the moment i go there the dood said " terrarium light? HA! i got something perfect for you even have covers that wont let the lights hit the tank" bata bing bata boom light for terrarium.
    Wright down the measurements and type of lights you wont/can use and bring the list to any place that sells lights. Tell them what its for and people are normally blown away and will go out there way to throw you info on were to get them.
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    Thanks for the info.

    I've looked at several hardware sites including Home Depot and I haven't really found much under 4'. Hopefully they do have a larger selection than on their websites like you say.

    Since the Terrarium itself is 30 inches, and the width of the wall opening that I am putting it in is 35 inches, a 3' light probably wouldn't fit. I'm most likely going to have to get one thats 2' wide at most (don't think they make any that are 2'6" ).

    I've heard some people getting a 2-tube 2' fixture, but it turning out to only be 20 watts per tube and their plants not getting enough light. Supposedly they don't make them in 40 watts. I'm not too sure on this though.

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    Yes 2 ft T12 shoplights are only 20 watts each tube. Six tubes of them works fine for a 29 gallon but there are better options available to you.

    If you're going to order stuff online why not get something really good and look into reef keepers power compact tubes. The kind I'm thinking of for your setup are 2 ft long and 55/65 watts each. They come with a ballast and two 12 foot long waterproof cords and bulb mounting hardware so they can be put into any aquarium canopy. I use them over my fully planted Anole lizards terrarium which is a 50 gallon "cube" who's dimensions are 30"L x 18" W and 24" H. They push out a lot of light compared to normal Fluorescents.

    Here is the pre-wired ballast for the 55/65W PCs:http://cgi.ebay.com/2-x-55-Watt-Powe...item45ee8826c8

    Here is a link to the 6700K DAYLIGHT version of these bulbs (they sell the higher K rating for corals but you don't need these for a terrarium):
    http://cgi.ebay.com/55-65-Watt-Strai...item439acf930a

    If you go this route make sure you buy bulbs that match your ballast. Both items above are matched "straight pin" arrangement but they do also have "square pin" arrangements as well. There' no difference in output quality just that square pin (Japanese) bulbs won't fit into a straight pin (German) ballast cord and vice versa. I always use the above seller when I buy ballasts or replacement bulbs. I have both the 2 foot and 3 foot versions of these daylight bulbs & ballasts.

    Good luck with whatever lighting you choose.

    If you want to "save" on lighting buy the slightly larger 55 gallon tank and then you can use 2x 4 ft twin tube shop light fixtures. Non standard sizes almost always means you wind up spending more $ on lighting.

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    Wow swords great info. How's the heat output on those bulbs? Could you grow heli's or ceph's under two 55W fluorescents, or is the heat output too high? With the ballast sitting outside the terrarium I imagine the heat output would be very low, but I gotta ask. I'm bookmarking that page for when I build my new terrarium - if the heat output IS low, you just made my venture into ceph's and heli's a whole lot easier.

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    While I haven't played around with aquatic plant setups for a while. Several years back, AH Supply was one of their highest recommendations. They have very high light output and meet your size restrictions. However, they do not give them away...
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    Quote Originally Posted by swords View Post
    Yes 2 ft T12 shoplights are only 20 watts each tube. Six tubes of them works fine for a 29 gallon but there are better options available to you.

    If you're going to order stuff online why not get something really good and look into reef keepers power compact tubes. The kind I'm thinking of for your setup are 2 ft long and 55/65 watts each. They come with a ballast and two 12 foot long waterproof cords and bulb mounting hardware so they can be put into any aquarium canopy. I use them over my fully planted Anole lizards terrarium which is a 50 gallon "cube" who's dimensions are 30"L x 18" W and 24" H. They push out a lot of light compared to normal Fluorescents.

    Here is the pre-wired ballast for the 55/65W PCs:http://cgi.ebay.com/2-x-55-Watt-Powe...item45ee8826c8

    Here is a link to the 6700K DAYLIGHT version of these bulbs (they sell the higher K rating for corals but you don't need these for a terrarium):
    http://cgi.ebay.com/55-65-Watt-Strai...item439acf930a

    If you go this route make sure you buy bulbs that match your ballast. Both items above are matched "straight pin" arrangement but they do also have "square pin" arrangements as well. There' no difference in output quality just that square pin (Japanese) bulbs won't fit into a straight pin (German) ballast cord and vice versa. I always use the above seller when I buy ballasts or replacement bulbs. I have both the 2 foot and 3 foot versions of these daylight bulbs & ballasts.

    Good luck with whatever lighting you choose.

    If you want to "save" on lighting buy the slightly larger 55 gallon tank and then you can use 2x 4 ft twin tube shop light fixtures. Non standard sizes almost always means you wind up spending more $ on lighting.
    While I'd love a bigger tank, it wouldn't fit in the wall. The opening I am putting the Terrarium in is 35 inches wide x 24 inches high x 15 inches deep so if the Terrarium+lighting combined is larger than that, it won't fit.

    Also, isn't $83 a bit pricey for a Ballast? Seems like I could buy a computer power supply for half that and ghetto rig it to be able to run a dozen lights. I'm hoping to spend less than that on the entire lighting setup.

    I may be able to fit 6 tubes, though the housing would have to be very compact and the tubes might all touch each other as the terrarium is only 12 inches deep leaving 2 inches per bulb.

    While I'd love to get something really good, I am restricted by a budget. Thanks for the recommendations, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamer View Post
    ....isn't $83 a bit pricey for a Ballast? Seems like I could buy a computer power supply for half that and ghetto rig it to be able to run a dozen lights.
    You have much to learn my young apprentice... the two couldnt be more different

    http://home.howstuffworks.com/fluorescent-lamp4.htm

    If you could ghetto a dozen lights off of puter power supply, trust me everybody would be doing it...

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