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    MULTIPLE terrarium issues: mold/fungus, lighting, etc.

    I should have learned to not mess with success...right now a lot of my plants seem to be taking a turn for the worse.

    A couple weeks ago I decided to make room for a new order by splitting up all the plants I had in my 15g and using the 20 long as well.

    I ordered several potted plants from a supplier (who will not be named) and they arrived in decent condition. Some are starting to transition well, others not so much.

    Here are specifics on setups:

    15 gallon:
    2x24w T5HO
    1x26w CFL, clamp light
    ~80F during day, 50-60% humidity

    *D. scorpiodes
    *D. pygmaea
    *D. pygmaea 'green' (gemmae)
    *D. pulchella
    *D. roseana
    *D. nitidula ssp. nitidula
    *D. palacea ssp. palacea
    *D 'Lake Badgerup'
    *P. moctezumae
    *P. primuflora
    *3 Pings that need better IDing
    *D. adelae daughter plants from the main plant, replanted in tupperware

    20 gallon:
    2x18w T5NO
    2x26w CFL, clamp lights
    ~80F during day, 50-60% humidity

    *D. capensis 'typical'
    *D. capensis 'alba'
    *D. capensis 'red'
    *D. venusta
    *D. aliciae
    *D. spatulata 'pink'
    *D. binata 't form'
    *D. adelae
    *D. capillaris 'long arm'
    *D sp. Pretty Rosette
    *D. nidiformis
    *D. madagascarensis
    *D. affinis
    *N. ventricosa 'red'
    *A small N. x Miranda (will be moved out soon)

    All plants sitting in a tray of bottled RO water minus the Neps

    Now, for the specific questions...

    1) My lighting seems random, at best. What should I actually be using?

    In addition to what is being used I also have a 30" 2x17w T8 fixture, one of the twin-tube "stock" aquarium fixtures.

    2) I realized I have quite a bit of open shelf space in my room to use as a grow shelf. I could easily rig up some clamp lights (it is a four tiered shelf) but which plants can realistically be grown?

    The ambient temps stay in the low 70's for most of the year unless it is warmer outside. I was able to grow the N. x Miranda on this shelf last year if that helps...

    3) I have mold and/or fungus in several pots. I don't think it is a coincidence that the majority of those that do have the one type are from the supplier. The other type is from in the D. pygmaea pot. Pics are attached. Should I plan on just repotting or is there a way to salvage the current media?

    4) The water sitting in the trays has got a cloudy, almost oily appearance. This has never happened to me and I have been using this same water source for a year now. It appeared after getting the new plants.

    A few random observations of some plants as well...

    -The capensis 'typical' just started to lose dew since moving it into the 20L. As you can see from the pics it is under the T5NO. My first thought is that it does not like the heat being produced...

    -The capensis 'alba' is growing a lot shorter leaves than in the past. Ideas as to why?

    -The capensis 'red' has new growth that is not red. Is that normal?

    -Two of the more mature D. scorpiodes plants have stopped opening up their new leaves, almost as if they are going dormant, however no "fuzz" has appeared. Another mature plant and the new one I got are growing just fine though.

    -I can only seem to get one to two D. pulchella plants to grow at one time, then they die off/go dormant and a new plant emerges.

    -The 'Lake Badgerup' is growing very well, however only a few leaves show any signs of dew.

    -The adelae, binata, aliciae, spatulata, and all the pings look as healthy and vibrant as can be!

    I know this is a lot of info to throw out there at one time, however I really could use some advice on how to best move forward and a) salvage what I can and b) provide the best future growing conditions for these plants.

    Pics of the overall setups and the mold/fungus and the water are attached. I do not have the time to get ones of the specific plants I am having problems with but I can later.

    Thanks for any and all help, it is appreciated in advance!!!
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    What is the source for water you are using? try to get a fungicide to take care of that but be carefull some may hurt the smaller dews. Any time you move things or change things it could take a few weeks just to aclimate and go back to normal growth.

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    It's drinking water, says purified by RO filtration. I've used it for a while now and never gotten any of this crud in the trays.

    What are the safest fungicides to use on dews?
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    Sulfur based fungicides are the safest as far as I know.
    Some days it just isn't worth chewing thru the restraints.

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    Are current lighting conditions adequate or should I change those? I can never grasp lighting with CPs, seems so varied...

    ---------- Post added at 03:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:03 PM ----------

    Also, still not sure what is "wrong" with the scorpiodes, pulchella, and 'Lake Badgerup'...their conditions have not changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpappy789 View Post
    Are current lighting conditions adequate or should I change those? I can never grasp lighting with CPs, seems so varied...

    ---------- Post added at 03:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:03 PM ----------

    Also, still not sure what is "wrong" with the scorpiodes, pulchella, and 'Lake Badgerup'...their conditions have not changed.
    The T5 HO lights are excellent for CPs....should be more than enough IMO. Mold issues are caused by a lack of air exchange.

    As far as the pygmies go....I personally have issues keeping pygmies alive, so you may be better served by someone who is better at growing them.
    Some days it just isn't worth chewing thru the restraints.

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    I rearranged a few things...capensis-es and binata were moved to the middle row and the lower growing rosette species )aliciae, spatulata, etc.) are now more directly under the T5.

    I totally forgot that part of the pygmy problem may be that one tube on the T5HO fixture is now burnt out...will be replacing that asap!
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    I've never had luck with peat in tanks.. I always use pure live LFS. A LOT less problems with it.

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