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    ?? 4-season Container Bog

    I have a project in mind for the spring and I wonder about how to set it up. We have a rather small yard with a good deal of shade, but we have a sunny patio area where I would like to situate a container bog. I intend to use a cedar planter box with a pond liner or maybe a plastic stock tank. Can I get good results with something like this as a semi-permanent bog planting? It gets very cold here (Zone 5) in the winter, so the whole thing will freeze solid through the winter months. I hope that the sand an peat substrate will lessen the amount of ice expansion and stess on the container. Does this sound right?

    I have looked around a little already and most of the container bogs that I have seen have been set up as seasonal features. Most of the more permanent bog gardens have used a larger depression in the ground with pond liner. I hope I can make this work in a container.

    Thanks for considering this.

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    How big? Really cool would be several large box-bogs on casters, that you can roll inside on certain nights, and arrange around patio for in-situ seating

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    Why would I want to roll it around? I am thinking of using a pretty good-sized cedar planter box probably about 48" long and 18" deep. It will be very heavy for moving.

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    Why would I want to roll it around?
    I think farmertom means so you can move it inside a garage or shed in case thing get really cold outside. An idea not totally without merit depending what it is you wish to grow. Some very hardy Sarrs, sundews and pings might be ok but you will have to choose carefully and be prepared for some possible losses.

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    It will be too big and heavy to move and we don't have any other space to put it either. I am interested mainly in growing native bog plants. Many of these are hardy to Zone 3 or 2, so they can handle temperatures way below zero F.

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    In ground hardiness and hardiness in above grade containers are two entirely different things. I keep half barrels in zone 7A and can relate my experience. After a particularly cold winter (in 7A) my Dews were fine, as was my Sarracenia purpurea purpurea. Sarracenia leucophylla and rubra, along with a typical VFT were not happy, but survived and recovered over the course of the season. On the other hand there are Pinguicula that my climate is too warm for. They might do well for you.
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    If you are planting natives they should be fine with the temperatures, but as you suggest you will get a lot of frost heave from the cold, the plants will rise up but can be resettled or repositioned in spring. The plastic may be a better option as it may distend rather than crack as the content expand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Booth View Post
    If you are planting natives they should be fine with the temperatures, but as you suggest you will get a lot of frost heave from the cold, the plants will rise up but can be resettled or repositioned in spring. The plastic may be a better option as it may distend rather than crack as the content expand.

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    I wonder if the sand, peat and live sphagnum might reduce the expansion somewhat(?). Water in a big tub freezing solid really heaves quite a lot. I suppose I could try a test.

    So long as they don't dry out during the winter the plants should be hardy here. The ones I want to use grow far north of here.

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