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    I had previously used a mister (those that create a mist-like effect by ultrasonic means) in my terrarium. Nowadays, I find that the plants do well without one, so I do not use it. However, one point to note, with a mister running, it does keep a terrarium at a relatively constant temperature without the addition of a cooling fan.

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    hmmm thanks tamlin that explains alot! So are you saying that glass in between the lights reduces the amount of light that reaches the plant in a way?

    40-50 RH? Thats good! Means i can grow my drosera in the open without a tank! does that mean that i can keep it together with sarrs?

    i did a set up like yours for my nepenthes, lights without anything glass/plastic and it's blazing hot! maybe more than 45 degrees celcius! (now it is not as hot because i gave it more much more air circulation, less humidity ) how do you reduce the heat?

    thanks!
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    I have a terrarium. It has 6 24" 20 watt flourescent lights on top with a piece of plexiglass in between the lights and the tank. When I first started it up it would get to about 95 deg. F (35 C) just like your's. I put two little dc muffin fans on the the lights and now the temp usually doesn't get much over 80 F (26 C). Here's a pic of my fans: [img]http://home.**********.com/users/buckeye/100_0590.JPG[/img]


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    Wesx,


    If your Sarracenia grow well, so should the Drosera, but you must take care to bring them into harsher conditions slowly. Screen the sun using white plastic garbage bags for a 1 or 2 weeks. Be observant, and make sure they are in tray water. Full morning sun is ok, but later in the day at first some screening will be needed. Then, late afternoon and evening sun is good without the cover. I think you get the idea. Broken sunlight is also ok. Most of the Drosera seed you have should do well like this.

    As for the Nepenthes, I am not very skilled with the genus, and have only a passing interest in them. Mine are in a tank which gets light but no direct sun. I always lay my tanks on the front so the top is towards me, and this is covered with a sheet of plastic. I have 6 flourescent tubes like I described before sitting on the glass. It gets too hot in summer, but the rest of the year works well. The climate is cool here with a good nightime drop, which the highland species need. I spray the plants on hot days, and if it gets too hot I ventilate the tank for awhile. My results are not great: I just dont have the space to grow them well.

    Even a thin sheet of plastic food wrap cuts out much of the spectrum the plants need! It is best to grow them in lower humidity, and directly under the light tubes (as close as possible). As I said, if Sarracenia and Dionaea are growing well, so will most Drosera. It may take time and effort to grow plants used to a terrarium out in the open, but if you go slowly, each new leaf will be more adjusted, and healthier.

    I hope this helps you. I used to grow everything in terraria, but find this approach produces the best plants. An advantage of starting fresh from seed is the plants are more naturally acclimated to your own unique conditions.

    Keep in mind that different climates may produce different results. I think the most important thing will be to gradually adjust the plants to your natural conditions. Once you have done this, it will be much easier to provide enough light for good growth and typical color.
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    thanks great info tamlin and buckeye!
    that helps! too bad i can't use my new and improved terrarium any more, i think i will have to get a custom made one instead which will cost me alot , ...too much glass which cuts out light spectrum...and extra cooling fans to cool my lights
    Hey tamlin i remember you talking about this turning the terrarium on the side idea, how did it work out for you? did your plants grow well?
    i dont want to waste the tank have now, ill use it for seed germination then, ill change the lights to weaker ones
    too bad i don't have much natural sunlight now, only window sills with very little sunlight, all are blocked by tall buildings
    also how much light do you recomend for drosera and VFT in a standered 2ft tank?
    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (wezx @ April 09 2004,12:24)]Hey im almost finished my my new terrarium, I measured the temperature, 35 DEGREES CELCIUS!!!
    alright i have a spare mister and i have in in a container in my terrarium, will this bring down the temperature to about 25 degrees celcius? maybe i should fix a fan to cool the lights?
    Sounds to me like you gonna roast your plants by any means...150Watts is madness.
    have to get a thermometer myself...see that the temperature is just right
    (Don't want my plants frying like my bical did...read the second page of the nep or foreign boards...I need serious help on my perishing bical...)

    BWT: Buckeye, nice DIY fans you got there! I think I might try that when I've got more free time...

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    Tamlin, you grow ye plants in your house?
    How do they all fit...

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    My standard reply to how much light is always "as much as you can afford". I think a standard shoplight fixture with twin bulbs would suffice for the area you describe. Remember the distance between the bulbs and the plant is very important: the difference of even a few inches is significant.

    Using the t errarium lying on its front usually brings the plants closer to the lights, and this is good. The method works well for me: I get increased "floor space", and it also lets me use cracked tanks which a local Petstore owner is willing to give me for free. I put the cracked front down.

    Yes Jason, all the plants are inside during the cold months. I have a dedicated grow room in addition to a growspace in the kitchen. I also use a lot of flourescent lights, around 35 of them along with a 1000 watt HID lighting system. This season will see a great reduction in my collection since I can no longer afford to maintain them.

    Most of my plants are outside between April and October in ambient conditions.
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