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    Aha! Good question Joachim [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]

    Seeds were collected from several plants in the area (whatever area it was). That much I am sure of from the sheer quantity of seed I received. We put 24 seeds into tissue culture which have been multiplied up and we planted out the remainder of the seeds. All the resulting plants are nearly identical in appearance which would be strange for a hybrid if seeds are collected from several parent plants.

    That's all I know really. It is possible that we will never identify this plant. I have another similar problem with another Sumatran Nepenthes that is rather stranger in appearance. I'll post photos of that one soon.

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    Rob,

    with looking threw some pictures the pitcher of the plant fits a couple plants but when it comes down to the leaf it doesn't fit any of them. most of the plants i was looking threw all had pointed leaves where the plant you posted has a rounded leaf end. so my guess is as good as yours.
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    Not what I would expect for N. angasanensis. So now I am really puzzled. Even more puzzling that the person thought it was N. densiflora.

    This may be way out in left field but I look at the pictures and I am tempted to say N. tobiaca x N. sumatrana. It is possible for a primary hybrid to be fairly uniform. However I would also think that seed collected from the wild would be composed of a mix of species/hybrid since flowers would most likely be pollinated by several sources.

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    Hmm,

    comparing the leafes on the second picture with the description of Salmon and Maulder in CPN 28/1999 I'm afraid I do have to agree with George and Tony. The leafes don't match the description of N. anagasanensis at all.

    It might be interesting to compare this plant with the only known hybrid of N. anagasanensis with N. densiflora. Sadly I didn't see a picture of this hybrid or even complex offsprings of such an hybrid up to now.

    Joachim

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    The guy who collected the seeds is an Indonesian living in Sumatra and he's not very knowledgeable about the plants. He's sent me seeds of "N. aristolochiodes" before that turned out to be somethinng else - after 3 years of cultivating them [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/img] so, the fact that he thought the parent plants to be N. densiflora when they weren't isn't too surprising really.

    Coincidentally, we have some seeds from the same guy that he says came from N. angasanensis They're still tiny seedlings in-vitro so it'll be a couple of years yet to find out what they are. Perhaps they will be N. densiflora [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img]

    I'm back in touch with Charles Clarke again now after his move from Hong Kong to Australia so I've asked him to take a look at the photos.

    There's really no substitute for going out into the jungle yourself. I'm getting old and fat now, but one day I'll dust off that rucksack!
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    Hello,

    Im certainly not an expert, but I wanted to note that there are some similarities between this plant and Nepenthes species # 5 on Malaysiana Tropical's website(Internal pattern of color in the pitcher and the large lid and long spur). There are also some differences in color and shape between the two. Maybe they could be related or different forms of the same species. Unfortunately the picture on their website doesnt show any of the leaf of the plant. Of course I could be way off also!

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    this should be moved to the identify plant forum

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