Hey, thx for the info schloaty, will look into that, and thx for the welcomes nepenthes_ak & cool85k5. I am very excited about this forum for the vast info pool it seems to have, I learned from my reefs there is no one way of doing things, but some ways are better for different organisms, and a club or forum like this is real helpfull for getting more ideas, or food for thought. I have always enjoyed building the systems as much as keeping the animals or plants themselves. I have a jump in up to my neck and swim my self out of trouble approach usually, but in the end I learn alot, unfortunately the hard way sometimes but what the heck it keeps me out of trouble and when it all comes together the rewards and the high is well worth the wait and hard times of the trip!!!!!
Again thx for all the input so far,