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    Welcome ! Not to sound discouraging but I have learned more by killing plants than I ever did by doing things right. Don't worry about it though there are plenty of folks here with good advice. Two of which have already piped up. You'll have an indoor setup before long, since waiting all winter really bites. Check out the threads and ask questions. Hmmmm on another note isn't Fort Wayne home of Jim Shorts famous radio personality ? Daaaats goood ! Probably before your time.
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    No discouragment at all I have to agree with you. I have learned alot from my mistakes. Both in real life and the CP world haha. And yes, I think you are right about Jim Shorts too
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    Hello and welcome!!
    Everyone has to start somewhere

    That greenhouse will come in handy for tropicals during the fall and winter, so no worries about that- although I'll agree- not the best choice for VFTs and Sarrs.
    My immediate concern though, is about the greenhouse. I will say you absolutely need to put weights at the feet of it and give it some sort of support at the back, like a cross-brace (owait, that's the plywood you have there, isn't it?). Cause uh...I've learned firsthand and heard other's horror stories about the disaster that will ensue if you don't.

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    Hi Dave,
    welcome!

    I agree with what everyone has said about the greenhouse..
    unfortunately greenhouses are basically useless in our northern US climate..
    (which is why you dont see a lot fo them!)
    its far too hot in the summer, and dosnt do enough to protect from the cold in the winter..
    Really all a green house can do in our climate is extend the growing season by a few weeks..
    a few weeks early in the spring, and a few weeks later in the fall..but thats about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by i<3carnivores View Post
    That greenhouse will come in handy for tropicals during the fall and winter, so no worries about that-
    well no, not really!
    In Florida maybe..but not in Fort Wayne..
    In the winter (in the north) When its 10 degrees outside, it might be 11 degrees inside the greenhouse! basically pointless...
    (and attempting to heat a greenhouse is our climate is really not practical..unless you dont mind spending $500 a month for heat..)
    tropicals will need to be brought indoors...

    Dave,
    you will need to find some method of of providing winter dormancy..
    the tricky bit is finding a place that remains 35-50 degrees all winter..
    Indoors in any "living space" is far too warm..
    outdoors is far too cold..
    Some people can use a garage, if its not too cold..
    or an unheated attic or spare room..
    the "Fridge Method" is quite sucessful, (as long as you grow your plants outdoors April-October) Here is how I do it:

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    Very informative read!!!! Thank you. I didn't think about cutting the plants down during the dormancy, but I see the point.

    I will need to finad another method as my wife would "kill" me if a plant goes in the fridge haha.

    I am not sure, but my garage may work. It is on the west side of my house, so maybe.... Keep it near the furnace perhaps. What if I moved my greenhouse into the garage and kept them in it during the winter?

    My seeds/seedlings I should keep inside though correct? It is ok for the 1st year I understand.
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    I use the garage method. My garage is insulated so it is usually 40-50 in there... I think. I wouldn't use the greenhouse in the garage either because it will prevent airflow which helps prevent fungus and mold. As long as your garage stays above freezing and not too hot, it would probably be fine. If it is uninsulated you may look at placing your plants next to an inside wall that will have heat from the inside dissapating into the garage.

    Water less during dormancy, keeping the soil only slightly moist. I also take my temperates out any day during the winter it is over 40 to give them some sunlight and airflow which is more to keep fungus and mold at bay than anything. Sunlight is natures bleach. Maybe not, but at least it gives me something to do and a chance to inspect them.

    The greenhouse would come in handy for lowland nepenthes though. Perhaps a nice bicalcarata. Lowland nepenthes like it warm and humid. You could add some lighting inside of the green house and a small fan and I think the heat from the lights and enclosed area would provide you with enough warmth and humidity for lowland nepenthes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EverDave View Post
    Very informative read!!!! Thank you. I didn't think about cutting the plants down during the dormancy, but I see the point.
    No problem!
    Its not lways necessary to cut all the foliage off..for growers down south (south of Virginia) who can leave their plants outside all winter, there is no sense in cutting of the foliage..because the plants might still photosynthesize on warm days, the the foliage gives a "head start" in the spring..but for my methods, it just makes sense..


    What if I moved my greenhouse into the garage and kept them in it during the winter?
    No point in that IMO..
    a greenhouse works by trapping and holding the sun's energy..in a garage, a greenhouse will do nothing at all..if its 40 degrees in the garage, outside of the greenhouse, it will be exactly the same inside a greenhouse that is in the garage!
    there is zero benefit to a greenhouse without a heat source..
    and a greenhouse in a garage could actually be worse, because it would hold on to excess humidity, which you dont want in the winter..especially if its warmish and dark ("warmish" meaning 50-ish F) clould encourage mold growth..

    IF your garage will stay above freezing, it could be fine..
    but if its not well insulated, it could easily fall into the 20's or colder in a typical garage..

    Scot

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