0zzy 0zzy 0zzy, I come back and find all this now. Review my posts and please look closely at how I worded things. You do not need to share my beliefs, they are mine. I am not responsible for how April words things however she is entitled to her beliefs also.
[b said:
Quote[/b] ]You and April are the ones that came out saying he was a thief,
Please look at the sequence of posts in threads and you will find she and I were not the first to raise concerns. Also please revisit what it is that I wrote. I never called him a thief. There was a member who did though and I believe his post was deleted. Perhaps that is why you thought we were the first “that came out saying he was a thief”. I suppose Casper might be able to manufacture a cause of action to bring against the member who really did come out and call him a thief because heck, it seems like people can sue any one for anything these days but... the comments would have to be false. I seriously doubt Casper is going to go after that member because to do so could open himself up to a counter suit. In my state we can counter sue people who file groundless lawsuits or suits filed to harass another party. People think twice nowadays before they attempt to "vindicate" themselves at the expense of another by filing frivolous lawsuits. Sure did put a stop to the “let me get you back” mentality around here. I'm thinking other states just might have something similar so I doubt there is any need for anyone to lose any sleep over this one. For the record, I believe Casper is a thief and should be pursued. Believing a person is a thief is different than stating a person is a thief.
I hate to say this but I'm crossing my fingers and toes and sort of hoping April doesn't find this thread because she just quit smoking a few days ago and I'm too tired to deal with people taking comments personally right now. April... if you read this... xoxoxoxo
[b said:
Quote[/b] ]To fix that, I decided to get all of our paperwork in order, and have some type of organization before I sent out the word that there were going to be some major changes. I had planned to send an email to everybody that was involved last time and let them know what was happening, but I haven't got to it yet.
If it is a casual club, there are no issues with what you did and you can make major changes any time you want.
[b said:
Quote[/b] ]You said we should have called a board meeting. How many have we called and nobody showed up?
0zzy, I lost count of how many Board meetings were called that only you and I showed up to. I don’t know what to say other than that people often start out with the best intentions of participating and then things happen. Volunteers willing and able to work in any capacity are worth their weight in gold these days. Only a small percentage of those who commit seem to follow through by finishing what they start so there is generally a high drop out rate. Perhaps a casual club is in everyone's best interests for now.
Now NepenthesGracilis, I don't believe anyone here is or ever has questioned why Casper was chosen to handle the money. Judgment errors of character are made all the time, no big deal. Human behavior is rather unpredictable. I doubt this guy started out rubbing his hands together while saying, “I think I’ll just disappear with the money today.” We should never judge people by the mistakes they make but by how they correct them. I’m sure if he magically reappeared with the money even this late in the game, no one would be anything but more than gracious and willing to drop the issue to move forward. I am relatively sure no one is vindictive here.
I don't balance my own checkbook. You would not want me handling money for an auction. Trust me on this one, Dustin. Copper had instructed me to step in for her and handle the auction while she was gone. I had started some preliminary footwork at her direction which had included securing the pro bono services of a law firm to handle the remittances from high bidders. I believed at that point in time it would be best to allow a bonded third party to handle the money and truly did not want to burden Terra. Bugweed turned the auction over to PAK because she had handled the previous auction. PAK handled it her way and as far as I am concerned, the money from this year's auction is as safe as if it had been handled by a bonded third party that deposited it in a trust account.
You are correct Dustin, I don’t have many Sarracenia compared to Bugweed or others out there. I also don’t hang on to multiples of the same plant preferring to share them with others. I frequently give away plants that I have only one of to people who need them. I do actually have an incredibly nice collection of plants indigenous to the Midwest. If I am not mistaken, you were the recipient of a few Jacks and Bloody Butcher Trilliums from my property. I like plants that are indigenous to North America. Sarracenia are indigenous. I like wetlands even more than I like native plants.
[b said:
Quote[/b] ] And on another side note, why do you even care about the Sarracenia "conservancy"?
I would classify myself an environmentalist. Is it ok with you if I play in the same sandbox with other likeminded people? I have some nice toys and I know how to share.
Backing up to Jeremy’s question, the NASC does need a President as well as other Officers to move forward. Ghosts in Office to be able to incorporate aren’t a good idea and people holding more than one Office are an even worse idea in my humble opinion. A casual club with a different name does not need a President.
Jeremy, there is a problem with the domain of
www.NASarracenia.org that I paid to register for the NASC as a gift. Rose had the password. I had it but as I am not computer literate and had no need to have access to the website, I gave it to her and I honestly have no idea what it was and it may very well have been changed by now. I’m sure she’d share it but she’s not available to ask. My personal friend owns the server that donated the webhosting to the NASC. Mind you that is a .org and the Board may not want to give the impression that the NASC is a bona fide not for profit so it might not be prudent to work on it right about now. Best to let the Board determine if they want work done on a website. And should they decide to get a website up and running, it might be best to register a new domain of
www.NASarracenia.net or .us or .com or anything but .org.
JBL, I don’t recall the actual percentage of Hurricane Creek that reverts to type but I think you are close. Maybe it was 20% or 30%.
Bugweed-
[b said:
Quote[/b] ] Laura, too bad you have no patience.
Patience isn’t one of my strong points but I can think of things far worse
[b said:
Quote[/b] ] Laura. I am trying to get you to help us, one step at a time, slowly evlove… I am growing. Anyone want to help?? Laura??
Bugs, I have to refresh your memory here. I have only been growing these plants for 3 years. This coming spring will be my 4th year. I do not want anything rare. I actually don’t want anything that I can’t easily replace if something goes wrong. I would have a heart attack if something happened to a plant from an extirpated site. I am growing a lot of cultivars now and I’ll be germinating more seed. That’s all I’m comfortable doing right now. It was a tough summer here with intense heat and drought and as you are aware, a winter drought can be even tougher on plants so here’s hoping I get good snow cover to insulate the plants I have growing outside. Additionally, I live in a heavily wooded area and critters abound. Squirrels are particularly rough on the plants but the English House Sparrows are right in there with the squirrels trying to destroy everything they can. In the winter, moles and voles and deer do their best to uproot and strip everything down. Do you really want me to help you all grow? Best for me to take a raincheck for a few years until I get some more experience under my belt. Now if you want help with working on educational programming for kids to work with the plants being grown for a casual club, count me in.
For what it’s worth, you called an immediate Board Meeting and I think it should be done in open forum. Everyone on Jeremiah’s list above should be contacted personally to include the person who was the President just before you. If it is decided that the thread will be in open forum (perhaps a good idea to seriously consider doing so), people
not on Jeremy’s list should be asked to please not post in that thread. Casper disappeared with the money not any Board members. There’s nothing to hide. One thought, the Board should really vote on whether to pursue Casper or not before they discuss options…. one step at a time, slowly evolve… Sorry Bugs, couldn’t help myself on that one.