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    Oh Cripes, I forgot this all stemmed from an eBay auction, lol. Yes, if the seller has to have (and those with active importation correct me if I am wrong) Phyto to export and , more importantly, the buyer has to have proper paperwork on his end(as the document Pyro stated for US citizens). I would advise care in importing from those you do not know. You can get into trouble even if you have your ducks-in-a-row on your end.

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    The seller only needs a phyto certificate if the importing country requires it, not every country does.
    The plants in this case are CITES I so both parties will need CITES papers issued by the CITES management authority. If the plant were CITES II the exporter would require a permit issued by CITES management authority. Import of CITES II will very by country, in the US we need permit PPQ621.

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    Correct(by my reckoning),and AU is a phyto country.
    Thanks for the summary.

    Joe

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    Not to necro-bump, but:
    Carnivorous plants Sarracenia oreophila fresh seeds

    I wonder however... For example, D. madagascarensis (Drosera madagascariensis?) is supposedly endangered too, but I've seen those available at several online stores. Are they just as illegal to trade?

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    Drosera madagascariensis is not endangered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emesis View Post
    Drosera madagascariensis is not endangered.
    Ah, my bad then. Was basing this on:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drosera_madagascariensis

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    Unfortunately, there's no reference link on wiki. It might be true in Madagascar, bz they facing some serious environmental issues right now. However, it's not listed in CITES, which is the source to check to see what species are required to have permits for importing.

    http://www.cites.org/eng/resources/species.html

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    Money is the most important thing. The human's ethnics are very flawed. If they think something is right, they feel that they can do it. That may be the problem. Money may be the problem. It doesn't matter what the problem is as long as there is still the problem. That is what CITES is for. I am not taking sides in this argument. I agree with most, but why even bother arguing? People love money. Conservation may be important, but the humans mind circulates upon wealth. The law cannot stop the love of wealth.*

    *That had to be said sooner or later.
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