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    How can you tell by examination if seeds were from plants in culture or collected illegally from the field?

    CITES definitions
    (b) "Specimen" means:

    (i) any animal or plant, whether alive or dead;

    (ii) in the case of an animal: for species included in Appendices I and II, any readily recognizable part or derivative thereof; and for species included in Appendix III, any readily recognizable part or derivative thereof specified in Appendix III in relation to the species; and

    (iii) in the case of a plant: for species included in Appendix I, any readily recognizable part or derivative thereof; and for species included in Appendices II and III, any readily recognizable part or derivative thereof specified in Appendices II and III in relation to the species;

    You have to look at the specific species listed in each Appendix. All parts and derivatives are not allowed on Appendix I Sarracenia oreophila, S. rubra spp jonesii, S. rubra ssp alabamensis.

    All other Sarracenia species are covered under Appendix II with the following footnote:
    All parts and derivatives, except:
    a) seeds, spores and pollen (including pollinia);
    b) seedling or tissue cultures obtained in vitro, in solid or liquid media, transported in sterile containers;
    c) cut flowers of artificially propagated plants; and
    d) fruits and parts and derivatives thereof of artificially propagated plants of the genus Vanilla.

    Endangered Species Act Definitions (Section 3.14):

    (14) The term “plant” means any member of the plant kingdom, including seeds, roots and other parts thereof.

    Links:
    Endangered Species Act
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    CITES Appendices

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    Good to know. Thanks for the info!

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    Since CITES pertains only to endangered species, is there anything illegal about trading non-endangered plants to and from the US? Or would I need a permit for that as well? If so, anyone know where and how much, my searches are turning up nothing. Thanks

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    You need a Photosanitary Certificate to import and export stuff into and out of the USA. These apply to any plants that are not sterile.
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    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sarracenia-o...ht_2004wt_1185 If anyone cares I found another one. Is it still illegal?
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    those are cultivated... so even if they are "technically" illegal, there's no *moral* law broken. I think that's what most of us actually care about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clue View Post
    Just to add a side-note here:

    It's spelled Sarracenia oreophila, not S. oreophilla, S. oreophylla, etc.

    Proof:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarracenia_oreophila
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDCPs View Post
    My turn to be picky. Wikipedia is NO FORM OF PROOF, according to my professors
    Agreed.
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