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    The comments by Carl Mazur aren't as bad as they appear. He says that the ICPS could perhaps help with that sort of thing with some of the rarer species. Perhaps two collections, one of the rarest plants, with the ICPS sanction, and one consisting of more common species that is unsanctioned and mostly in the hands of private growers? He may not be able to help with everything, but he isn't refusing outright.

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    I feel the same way about Carl Mazur. I know if it were up to him, he would bend over backward to make this work. But, the constraints of the ICPS, even upon themselves, make the process overlong, and too drawn out. By the time they do move, too many more stands will be gone. I have mentioned before, and I will again, you can legally collect species in Florida with a State sanctioned collecting permit. This rule has not as yet been changed. Many other location plants are in collections all over the place, and they need to be found. I have one Botanical Garden I am looking into, headed up by Judith Finn, that has location data with all plants field collected, and they have quite a few. I will seek her help, as well as some growers here in the Bay Area, who also have location species. I am willing to give up my leucophylla Schnell's Ghost, just so everyone can have a piece of it. I even know where it came from, and all that. We need a central place for seed distribution, or send it to other growers ourselves. Carl is a good man, but his hands are tied by their own ICPS rules. But I know Carl is in favor of saving all we can, but follow the guidelines. If you know someone with a beautiful stand on their property, Get permission from the landowner, and be discretionary about your collecting, and remember your responsibility to the land. We are trying to help, not get ourselves or any organization into trouble. We do not need every plant. We should think, perhaps, on now setting down guidelines. Like for instance, Go after collected plants first in the form of seed and divisions. Second, collect seed caps and 3 to 6 plants (if necessary) for genetic diversity. I do favor seed, but that would mean most members would wait 5 to 7 years for a plant to mature and flower and start producing for the Sarracenia Growers Society(not the name, suggestion only), otherwise, seedlings could be sprouted and spread to all who ask. Just some thoughts.
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    I'd like to nominate Bugweed for President. He has good ideas and the passion. Any one of the nominee would make a great president. I just want to add to the pool of qualified people. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]
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    I am sure I am biting off a lot more than I want to chew, but, I will accept the nomination as presented by PlantAKiss.
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    Bugweed,

    It is fitting and proper that you lead this venture. To this end, I am appointing you Chairman pro-tem since I have some obligations that will keep me offline for a spell. The concept originated with you and Brooks, and as there is nothing I can direct, I am withdrawing. I wish you the best with your work, and am ready to contribute what little I can towards the realization of your excellent vision.
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    OK I'm a bit confused now but do we know what locations are being threatened? Also would Meadowview be of any help?

    We need to get as much support as possible if we want to have a taste of success.

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    We already have support, and that is the people on this Forum. I am not depending on any one person, or any one place for help or support, as we have already experienced what the status quo does for you. As little as possible. We are going to do it, or we are not, but if you just let it die a lingering death, how can you live with that? Doing nothing, gains you nothing, and you will get what you deserve. I am for saving these location species for future preservation, and will do as much of it alone as I can if that is what is necessary. This project is worth its weight in gold, and you will reap the benefits of being a steward in saving a small protion of this planet. It still is open for discussion.
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    Hi Guys,
    Just reading the amazing discussion, hopefully this link to the NCCPG will work this time for you guys..
    http://www.nccpg.com

    You will need a cross reference system as you propagate plants so that way you know where that plant came from. I think there is enough material in the US without having to field collect. It is upto the people with the larger collections to share, code and list their plants. That way the 'true' plants never need to be 'lost' and accuracy is assured..



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    Mike King

    NCCPG National collection holder of Sarracenia

    http://www.carnivorousplants.uk.com

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