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    Well spoken bugweed,and Mr. mazur,
    Now I feel we need to get to drafting our preamble.We do not have to have a president in place for this as it makes more sence for the P. of the FNSC to first know the goals and desires of the people.Any takers? I would attempt a draft myself ,but I dont really have any legal advise to draw from. However, this may need to be discussed in open forum so we are all agreed.

    I have not read any post suggesting a "rogue" unit. I for one find the support of the USFW
    ,and ICPS very benifical to our cause. Even if the support slows our inital progress what it cannot effect is our recording of known legitimate plants in cultivation,our election,and the legal documents needing to be prepared. The issues that may be impeaded by an endorsement from USFW or ICPS need to be stated very soon so work to resolve these issues can begin.If this is accomplished while at a beginning stage any hold ups we would normally face
    can be resolved quickly. Again this is why I feel our preamble/mission statement
    is a top priority.After the initial phase I believe support,and/or endorsements
    from these orgs. will supplement our speed for the simple fact that while operating within there guidelines(I have read nothing to the contrary here)we are not constrained by their timetable.
    Barry it was a pleasure ,and relief to hear from you.Thanks for all the great advise.

    I am here still waiting(read: chomping at the bit)for any work I can do.I understand this may take some time.Until them I will be acting as a bullhorn emailing new listserve members as well as the ones I see have'nt made it to this thread.There is a CP lecture here in the Houston area May 22nd I will certanly be there representing the FNSC as I would hope this org. will have considerable structure by then.This so far is what I know to do.I am open to suggestions, so please feel free to contact me.
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    Below you will find some prelimary thoughts. I started thinking in my head of a mission statement and a justification for having a National Collection. These two items are very important This may serve as starting point for someone to writeup some proposal. There needs to be a "plan" as barry pointed out! or this is sure to fail. Also in the mission, I think something should be said about this organization adhearing to all federal and/or state laws with regards to collection and dissemination of plant/seed material.

    Might I also suggest that someone host a website to post updates on the status of the project and things of the like. Its quite difficult sifting through all this stuff on the forum to find definititve statements of what has been agree on, or who is doing what etc, etc. I can volunteer for this. But in order to do it, I would like to have direct emails from the "president" or whoever is organizing this. That way I'll post factual, accurate information. So when a mission is decided on, whoever is in charge, please let me know and I'll post it. When official positions are determined and board members, organization etc is determined, let me know.

    Best
    Carl


    Mission
    The mission of the National Sarracenia Collection is to serve as a living record of the taxonomic, morphological and genetic diversity of the genus Sarracenia . Furthermore, surplus seed/plant material from this collection shall be made available to carnivorous plant enthusiasts so that every interested grower has access to specimen material within the collection.

    Rationale
    Sarracenia is an endemic genus of carnivorous pitcher plants native to North America. With the exception of one species, all are confined to the south eastern region of the United States from southern Virginia to eastern Texas. Sarracenia are wetland species primarily inhabiting long leaf pine savannahs, seepage bogs, pocosins and other wetland habitats. It follows, that because the genus Sarracenia is almost entirely located within the US, a national collection should be located in the United States.

    Sarracenia are rapidly disappearing from the wild. Currently, three of the ten species are listed as federally endangered and protected by federal law and state laws. In many states, the remaining species are also protected and considered threatened. In some states, populations of particular species are limited to single sites.

    There are a number of factors that are contributing to the slow and steady demise of this genus. Of greatest concern is habitat destruction. It is estimated that as little as 2-3 % of the original pitcher plant habitats of the south eastern US are still extant. The pressures of urban expansion and drainage of land for agriculture are by far the greatest threats facing these plants. The destruction of Sarracenia habitat is happening at an alarming rate as the demand for land increases. Fire suppression is another contributing factor. Sarracenia are a fire dependant genus, requiring open, regularly burned habitats in order to thrive. Fire kills off competitive growth and over time. The suppression of fire allows habitats become overgrown and inhospitable to Sarracenia. A third factor is illegal collection or poaching by individuals for personal collections, or on a large scale for commercial gain. All these factors combined are painting a bleak future for the genus as a whole. Given the dismal future for these plants, a National Collection of Sarracenia is paramount.

    It is becoming increasingly apparent that we are loosing countless specimens of Sarracenia in the wild due to the above factors. In the case of the endangered species of jonesii, alabamensis and oreophila, the National Collection would serve as a depository to save representatives of given populations. A living record of an extinct populations. Aside from the endangered species, there are many forms and mutations that are very rare in the wild. In some cases, some of these rarities have already been extirpated. For instance the anthocyanin free rubra jonesii, and rubra gulfensis exist only in private collections; their habitats destroyed or poached. The same may hold true for other anthocyanin free specimens as well as other unique gentic mutations or forms of Sarracenia. A national collection, would allow for a centralized depository for representative of these specimens. Should a particular specimen become extirpated in the wild, documented representatives will be held safely in the National Collection, to be viewed, shared and enjoyed for generations to come.

    Plants within the genus of Sarracenia are prized among carnivorous plant enthusiasts. Their sheer beauty and natural variation make them one of the most popular carnivorous plants in cultivation. As previously noted, one of the pressures put on wild sarracenia populations is poaching and the illegal collection of plants. The impact may be as small as collecting a couple of plants for a personal collection or as large as extirpating an entire site (as in a rubra jonesii site) to sell for profit. Regardless of the magnitude, collection of wild plants can have a significant impact on remaining population. In the case of S. jonesii, S. alabamensis, S. oreophila, and rare populations of other species, illegal collection may have a long term effect on the populations long term viability and in extreme cases, lead to demise of the population. The more rare a plant specimen is, the more desireable it becomes to collectors, the more pressure there is poach, or for professional poachers to make these plants available to collectors. By making specimens of the national collection available to growers, especially rare specimens, the demand for poached plants will drop, thus alleviating that pressure on given populations.
    Sincerly,

    CJM

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    I don't want to sound like a broken record but, we need someone to draft a business plan. I believe this is a critical next step!

    I would love to help but I am very busy at work. I live in Detroit/Flint, MI and work in Chicago. Ten hour days and some weekends. I'm sure there are many others in this position. I guess my point is I will help but my progress will be slow due to my work schedule.

    Once we have a leader I suppose this can be worked out.

    I am told there is a poll somewhere on the forum. I am going to try and find it.

    At your service.

    Glenn

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    I feel dumb, the poll was right under my nose. Did my patriotic duty and voted. Back to work.

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    Carl, that is a great help, you definatly took a little weight off of my shoulders and stated it much better than I could have. For the time being, untill we can have a proper vote I am heading up the project. I am working on delegating resposibilty as we speak.

    I just took this thing over, so I am un-sure of what everyone is currently working on. So if you are working on a project, could you please send me a pm stating what you are working on and your progress. That way I don't ask someone else to do something that is already being worked on.

    PAK: Would you like to add anything or ammend the current mission statement as Carl has put it?

    Paul

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    Hey All,

    I've created a forum dedicated to this project. It's in general discussions just two below the conservation forum.

    I'm going to move these to that location. If you need assistance in organization of the project when it comes to communications on here, let me know!

    I have a few ideas... but I"ll just see how this works to start.
    Phillip J. Crane
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    Moving to main topic, U.S. National Sarracenia Collection

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    Phillip J. Crane
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    Quote:

    "Sarracenia are rapidly disappearing from the wild. Currently, three of the ten species are listed as federally endangered and protected by federal law and state laws. In many states, the remaining species are also protected and considered threatened. In some states, populations of particular species are limited to single sites."

    Then WHY are they disappearing. It seems the states don not enforce the laws or preservation quite well at all.

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