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    Snowy has been working on a coding system for the project. It looks great to me so far, so I am posting it here for everyone to discuss.


    Here's how the coding system will work.

    Example: S. purpurea ssp. purpurea f. heterophylla, Walton Co. FL.

    Using the species name, we can get the first part of the code, SPPH.

    The postal code of the state of origin will be the next two letters. In this case it would be: FL.

    A three digit number would then be assigned to the clone. This number could then be looked up in a national database for information about that clone. Such information would be stuff like: The origin, who collected it and when, how much was collected, plants that were nearby (in case hybrid seed is accidentally collected, we'll have an idea of what the other parent was) and any special characteristics of the plant (light or heavy venation, pubescent, etc.).

    The final code that would go on the tag should look something like

    SPPH-FL-203

    A non-complete lettering system can be found here

    http://home.**********.com/snowyfalcon/Coding.xls

    And some example database entries (fictional) can be found here.

    http://home.**********.com/snowyfalcon/example.xls


    If you have any corrections or additions that need to be made, let me know and I will correct them. The next step after both of your approvals would be to vote!

    SF

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    Well, it looks pretty good to me.
    I always suspect everything is a trap....thats why I'm still alive

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    FYI...folks who do not have Excell (like me) will not be able to see the tag at that link.
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    Well, I have excel on my office comp. and my p.PC so I didn't think about that
    prehaps we could also put it in a form others could use also,but you may not have the editing capabilities you would with the excel.For the time being prehaps you could post the gist here. Sarracenia
    Type Variety/Spp Clone Number Location Origin Date Comments (fictional at this point)

    Purpurea
    Venosa SPV-FL-001 Walton Co. FL Brooks Garcia 10/00/03 These plants are grown from approximately 1000 wild collected seed. The other species in the area are SA-FL-293 and SM-FL-453. Average height is 14 cm and width is 5 cm. Heavy venation throughout plant.
    SPV-FL-002 Liberty Co. FL Whoever Collected Them 2/00/04 200 seed and three mature plants were collected at this site. Average pitcher height is 13 cm, width 7 cm. Light venation throughout plant.
    SPV-GA-003 Long Co. GA Whoever Collected Them 2/00/04 4 mature plants were collected off private property. Average height is 19 cm, width 6 cm.

    Purpurea SPP-NY-001 White Plains, NY Whoever Collected Them 2/00/04 16 mature plants were saved from a construction site. These plants are of an all green form.
    Minor
    Typical SM-GA-001 Long Co. GA Whoever Collected Them 1/00/04 Salvaged from a construction site.
    SM-GA-002 Big Thicket National Preserve, Jefferson Co. FL Whoever Collected Them 2/00/04 Donated by park rangers at the BTNP, 5 mature plants. Average height is 20 cm. Large windows and thin pitchers.
    var. Okee
    etc.
    Flava
    var. ornata SFO-MI-001 Stone Co. MI Brooks Garcia 2/00/04 Approximately 200 seed was collected from a thriving population. The plants were especially veined near the throat.
    SFO-AL-002 Conecuh National Forest, Covinton Co., AL Whoever collects them 7 Mature plants were brought back from populations suffering from tourist collection. Very light, spider web like venation. Other plants in the area: SFR-AL-123 and SL-AL-320.

    var. rubricorpa SFR-AL-001 Conecuh National Forest, Covinton Co., AL Whoever collects them 2/00.04 7 Mature plants were brought back from populations suffering from tourist collection. Heavily colored. Other plants in the area: SFo-AL-002 and SL-AL-320.

    and on and on


    Sarracenia Hybrids
    Parentage Clone Number Location Origin Date Comments (fictional at this point)

    S. (Leucophylla X Minor) SH-AL-001 Citronelle/Deer Park Bog, Mobile Co. AL Whoever 1/31/99 This hybrid is a cross between SL-AL-322 and SM-AL-201. Heavy windows and nice coloration.
    S. (Leucophylla X Minor) SH-AL-002 Citronelle/Deer Park Bog, Mobile Co. AL Whoever 2/30/02 This is a natural hybrid occuring between these two species. The exact cross is not known, but the parentage is definitely of Leucophylla and Minor descent. The plant is heavily influenced by the Leucophylla parent and only slightly by the Minor parent.
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    I just wanted to mention that Mijako10 helped out with a few suggestions on this project. He also mentioned that along with the information collected with each clone, the individual grower should keep statistics of his own plants. This would include germination date, date of acquisition, growth rates etc.

    Please feel free to post any critiques you can come up with. The better and more complete this project ends up, the more chance we'll have of a working, easy to use system. If there is any data you feel needs to be added and tracked, let us know!

    SF

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    I took screenshots of the excel files and turned them into JPG files. Everybody should be able to view these files. A word of warning for those with slower internet connections, these files are LARGE, so be prepared to wait a few minutes.

    http://home.**********.com/snowyfalcon/example2.jpg
    http://home.**********.com/snowyfalcon/Coding2.jpg

    SF

    EDIT: I reduced the size of the pictures, but there has been some image quality lost as well.

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    Greetings. Just a couple of thoughts about coding. A common set of initials for species should be agreed upon

    SPP
    SPV
    SMI
    SFL
    SRO
    SRU

    Etc, And we should determine what classifcation system we will adopt for instances is it S. rubra ssp alabamensis or S. alabamensis ssp alabamensis and ssp wherryii? That will impact coding SRA or SAA and SAW

    Also the first two letters of the code should be NSC for National Sarracenia Collection, then it should be followed by a two digit state code FL, then plant designator SRG and then some sort of accession number.

    EG NSC-FL-SRG-000001

    That way it can be ordered by state. Another option is to add a county code say WAL walton, sor NSC-FL-SRG-WAL-00001 or something like that.

    my 2 cents

    Carl Mazur
    Sincerly,

    CJM

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    We could code all the information into a gigantic 50 character long sequence, but remember, K.I.S.S.. I agree NSC should be added to the beginning of the code so that the plants can be differentiated from personal coding systems already in use by individual growers.

    We also need to agree on how to label those controversial species, such as S. rosea or var. burkei? S. rubra ssp. or S. alabamensis? Not to mention all the S. flava variations. This is something that requires a poll, something I do not have the power to create.

    SF

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