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    Without a foaming at the mouth lecture could someone seriously explain to me the benefit of replacing hundreds, if not thousands of plants in an area that has been attacked by poachers. Isn't it sort of an invitation to come back again and repeat the poaching? Don't get me wrong I'm not against restocking plants but doesn't it become a never-ending they take, we put back, they take, etc? Is there a second step in the process to ensure less poaching happens? Thanks to anyone who can clear this up for me.

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    if the poachers are determined, there are few things that can keep them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]someone seriously explain to me the benefit of replacing hundreds, if not thousands of plants in an area that has been attacked by poachers. Isn't it sort of an invitation to come back again and repeat the poaching
    um i am shure there are

    i just cant think of them at the moment
    that makes no logic

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    Something that would be nice is to add wireless weatherproof cameras to sites. They just might give a clue sometime. On the other hand, they could easily be taken out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (NickHubbell @ July 03 2004,10:44)]Something that would be nice is to add wireless weatherproof cameras to sites. They just might give a clue sometime. On the other hand, they could easily be taken out.
    video cameras would be expensive, but useful. I think that if they were all covering each other, it would be very difficult to down them all and not be seen.
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    I have a question.........how can this happen in a NATIONAL FOREST PRESERVE?[img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/confused.gif[/img] Up here if you touch a lowly pine tree in the Adirondack Park you get fines up the rear! Is it just that there is no guidance nor care at this facility? I mean cmon, someone must know something about how unqiue and rare these plants are.

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    Thats why there in a preserve. All over the world, national parks and nature preserves are favord haunts for pochers because they have often wiped out the target species everywhere else. Like in africa with rinos, south america with parrots, and indonesia with rare orcids
    that makes no logic

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    Buster,
    One way to deter poachers to is make what they are poaching so plentiful and cheap that their is no market for their efforts. The NASC could make sure that every collector or hobbist could get their hands on red tubes for a couple of dollars. Having said that I also know that flavas are notoriously difficult if not impossible to TC. I think science will find a way in time. But, if the NASC's members had said plants, selfed them and, could distribute the seeds among members for growing, in a few short years we could flood the market with red tubes. The European market is all together a different story. That is up to folks like Mike King to help on that end. Just a thought in support of the NASC.
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    ......and a very good thought at that! I plan on doing the same thing with the Brazillian Drosera species: flood the market so that anyone who wants them can have them for free or close to it. Rarity is what feeds profit motivation. Make them as common as S. purpurea var purpurea and you are killing the black market. The key is in sharing, reproducing and continuing the cycle in an exponential increase. BElieve me, I have watched material I have introduced spread like wildfire all over the world in just a couple of years! This will certainly work with Sarracenia as well.
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