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    So, if I understand correctly, this would be a process that would take several years and restocking plants in the wild is a temporary fix until the profit in poached plants doesn't make it worthwhile anymore. That sounds like a good idea. Now my next question...what about habitat loss. I know that is not a major concern in the national forests like Apalachicola, but in the rest of the state they seem to be draing land and slapping up subdivisions faster than you can count them. How do we save the wild populations?

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    SAve wild populations? Obtian permission from the landowner and dig!

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    Or buy the land...but the money must come from somewhere.
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    D. muscipula & D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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    It is important to maintain the wild stands as they are, genetically intact. What the NACS is doing in theroy is like a botanical zoo, saving samples of species for all time in the case that the wild stands are decimated. Some wild stands will be wiped out. That can be another objective of the NASC is to raise awareness and promote conservation. Progress is moving at a much faster rate than we will be able to get the word out. So what is proposed now is to collect and collect quickly(with permission). Later when when have a protocol in place, and IF the native stands are wiped out completely the NASC can find suitable habitats and with the plants we have saved we can reintroduced to areas where they once grew insuring that the same or close to the same genectic material is reintroduced. In conservatation practices, as I understand it, this is the last resort. The order of importance as I see it is: 1) get the formalities out of the way. 2) Amass the collection. 3) Start a distribution program either through the ICPS or the NASC. I am aware it is more complicated than that but for the sake of dicsussion.

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    Okay, I have talked to ABG and they have an individual heading to check the site who is very familiar with the area. I will post here whatever they find and we can go from there.

    I have also made this a topic on the listserv and have recieved a number of emails on it. Unfortunatly they do not clear the issue up any but they do seem to confirm the observations that something might be happening at the site. However it is a good possibility that it is strictly due to the drought in the region.
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    I was reading the listserve over the week and they seem to be indicating that it probably is drought. So stave the excitement, folks, until we get the final word. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]
    Not that it's not sad at any rate. That is one place I had hoped to visit, and if the plants are indeed dead(rather than some kind of Summer dormancy), then it will take Nature a looong time to replace the damage.

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    I was just thinking on this and while I doubt anyone would be dumb enough to act this way I want to make a post here letting everyone know that while talk of wanting to do something to re-establish the population is fine ABSOLUTELY NO ONE should take it upon themselves to go to this site and attempt to harvest any remaining plants or seeds. If this site has been compromised then it should be left for organized groups with pre-existing programs to look into restoring the site and any individuals who might go and harvest material or seed with the best of intentions would only screw the situation up more.
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    Well said Pyro. Yes, collection at this stage of things is essential, but it MUST be left to those who have the expertise to assess the situation. We can't have an army of collectors destroying what is left in the name of preserving them. It is NOT ok to go dig up any wild Sarracenia no matter how plentiful they may seem. Careful collections will be made, and the material will then be reproduced in sufficient quantity to meet all the desires of growers, but it will take time and patience on everyones part if this is to be successful. Now, in their darkest hour more than ever, a hands off policy is mandatory.
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