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    OK, so on a compulsion today I bought a Paphiopedilum and Oncidium. But, I managed to grab the two pots with care instructions/pedigree information missing. The Paph is kind of varigated, with light green and dark green spotches. The Oncidium looks like every other Oncidium I've ever seen. Any help? Can I put them on the sill with my Phaleonopsis? Advice on acclimating? Right now I've left them in the cellophane bags they're in - I'm going to give them a day or so in my aparment before taking them all the way out because it's a little drier here than most homes.
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    The Paph needs about the same amount of light as the Phalaenopsis. The Oncidium can take a lot of light. If you're worried about low humidity, you can place the pots on a tray with water and rocks. My plants are outdoors, so I can't tell you much about growing indoors, but you can try here: http://www.orchidlady.com. Welcome to the obsession.

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    Thanks for the tips. Will the Paph be OK with cool nights? Is Paph the Lady's Slipper orchid? I've got a good place for the Oncidium, right in the middle of my tallest light rack. I don't think that humidity will be an ongoing problem - I just have a particularly dry home and didn't want to shock the poor things any further, after they endured a two hour car ride from my home town. My Phals do fine in my humidity, but I have lost other new orchids after exposing them to a little too much cold or dryness in getting them home, so I just want to hedge my bets. They were fine in the cellophane bags at the store, so I'm sure they won't mind the bags for a day or two longer up here.
    As for the obsession, I'm not very new. It's just that my last roommate used to take care of my orchids along with his as he knew them better, but managed to kill almost all of them one fall when he misjudged the nightly lows over an extended weekend - one survived, and my neighbor gave me two more, one of which succumb to mites. So those are the two Phals I have today. I haven't really had the chance to learn much about them, or any other genera for that matter. :) But I'm finding orchids are getting cheaper and cheaper lately, and now that I have a whole apartment full of grow lights there are plenty of places for all the new plants I find.
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    Cypripedium are the lady slippers, Ok, Paphiopedilum are lady slippers too.
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    Don't forget about the Phragmepediums, and the mexipedium. There is one more, but the name escapes me now. Those are alos lady slippers. There is only one Mexipedium, and its a mini little thing. The molted leaf Paph you described I have been told does good in paph light, and in fact when I went to one of the growers GH in my OS his GH was dark compaired to mine. I grow things bright with alot more light than most people. The guys GH I visited had 25 and 55 % shade cloth along with shade paint on the back half of his GH. I wouldn't recomend that low. I hear Paphs and other slippers are sensative to mineral buildup in the pots, but are not as bad as CPs in that they need the fertilizer. They are accualy a terestrial orchid, but don't go planting them in dirt you will kill them. They like to stay moist, but also like an open mix. Phrags can sit in a tray of water and be fine, but not paphs. I would say just to be on the safe side do not let it get colder than 55 degrees F. Thats a general rule of thumb for alot of orchids in cultivation, UNLESS you know it to be a cool growing type. There are some of those kinds in the paph species, but if you bought it at a store that puts a plastic bag around the baby then its almost safe to say that it will be fine as long as it doesn't go below 55. You do know that your Phal needs to be chilled down to 55 to get it to spike in the winter right? I am not sure what causes a paph to spike, but I have one I got from lowes that is in flower now after being stuborn for me. They DO NOT like to dry out completely, and will suffer if they do. Unlike many other orchids that like to dry out before watering. Remember Paphs are technicaly a terestrial and occasionaly a lithophyte with some species. There are ALOT of slipperheads over at the orchid source forum.

    Once you get more comfortable growing slippers and don;t mind spending 30 to 40 bucks for a seedling you need to get ahold of a Paph rothchildianum. Its not a beginer paph by no means, and can take ALOT of time to get it blooming size. We are talking 7 years from starting the seeds till first bloom in most cases and thats grown in ideal conditions. Its just that this is the granddaddy of all paphs and a really large flower. Oh Its also a multi floral paph too not a sequential or solor flowerer. It also take more light than the molted leaf one too.
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    My Phals flower two or three times a year on my kitchen window sill. I crop the stalks as soon as I see bud drop and they come back a few months later. At night in the winter the apartment gets down to the low sixties, and I guess the sill is a few degrees cooler. The plants get indirect northern light from that window and seem to do fine. The Paph was in spike when I got it - hopefully the flower will survive! Thanks.
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    seedjar:you will probably loose some flowers from abiotic shock.
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    Nooooooooooo!
    Oh well. :)
    ~Joe
    o//~ Livin' like a bug ain't easy / My old clothes don't seem to fit me /
    I got little tiny bug feet / I don't really know what bugs eat /
    Don't want no one steppin' on me / Now I'm sympathizin' with fleas /
    Livin' like a bug ain't easy / Livin' like a bug ain't easy... o//~

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