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    Here is the picture of the one that Id like to separate the living from the dead...let me know if you need a closer picture.


    Let me know what kind of information you need about it..I got it at lowes about a year ago (it looked WAY better than it does now). It lives in that window and gets afternoon sun...about 1pm-6pm I think. It gets watered once a week...I havent repotted it since I got it, hence the plastic pot its in. It lives inside with a temp range from 70-75 and then whatever the sun heats it up to in the afternoon...and in the next window over is the other two orchids. ...not sure what else you need to know, let me know!
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    That definitely isn't a Phal and I agree with Josh about the ID of the two other photos you had linked. Josh and I never agree about anything else, but we do agree about orchids. I defer to him for those genera because I've never done well with either. But repotting is a definite requirement and I much prefer clay pots. Also, orchids tend to do better in pots that are too small rather than too large. Most of the plants for sale should be repotted as soon as they stop blooming because the mass-market nurseries time the bloom so they can sell them right before they would have picked up a lot of labor costs repotting them.
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    That is a cymbidium you want to repot. I would peal back the brown old leaves. I bet the Pseudo-bulbs under it are still alive. They are just referred to as back-bulbs. If the P-bulb is still alive then leave it attached it help nourish the plant.

    Let me know what kind of information you need about it..I got it at lowes about a year ago (it looked WAY better than it does now). It lives in that window and gets afternoon sun...about 1pm-6pm I think. It gets watered once a week...I havent repotted it since I got it, hence the plastic pot its in. It lives inside with a temp range from 70-75 and then whatever the sun heats it up to in the afternoon...and in the next window over is the other two orchids. ...not sure what else you need to know, let me know!
    Cymbids can take the heat and can take the cold. Put that baby OUTSIDE!! Repot it into a slightly bigger pot. It doesn't really matter clay or plastic. I have mine planted in dirt and bark mix. You can go with a peat/bark or mulch mix. I tell you I sent some to my grandparents in Fla and told them to plant them in the ground. They bloomed last spring. They grow them in the ground in Cali. They like to stay moist. Once a week in the house is way to little. My phals in the house down here in GA get watered every 2-3 days min. Cymbids take a lot more water. Hense the ability to be planted in a free draining dirt mix.

    When you move it outside put it someplace to get full morning or full after-noon sun. Protect it from mid-day noon sun for the most part. Leave it outside when the temps drop. It can take as low as about 38-40. Mine even survived a freeze last year because I forgot them. Granted they look ugly now but they survived. So low 40's to be safe. They need the cold to initiate blooms for next season.

    So to sum it up. Re-pot the plant and check the bulbs. If they look plump and full just with the old leaves on the outside leave them alone. If they are shriveled and dead then you can trim them. Then plant them in a pot with peat or dirt/bark or mulch. In about a 1:1 ratio. You want a good moisture retentive mix that holds water well, but does not water log. You want to keep them moist and you want to give them good strong light. Protect from mid-day noon sun, but full morning and/or full evening. You want a temp drop into the low 40's at least and they can take the heat of 100+ degrees. Very wide temp range. They just definitely need the temp drop to re-bloom.

    Cymbid care, just a little variant to what I told you.

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    Cymbid repot video I could not embed

    And this one is on repotting Phals



    He talks about rotted and dead roots. He uses a heavy peat mix that I do not recommend for Phals.
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    THank you SO much! I will be repotting him soon and putting him outside on the 100 degree balcony (will it shock it if I put it out there cold turkey??) I would LOVE to see it bloom again, it was just gorgeous...but I figured it was a Phal with different leaves since the card it came with said so. Pfft.

    My phal is in one of those "orchid pots" and is finally doing well and actually has roots growing OUT of the top of the pot. Ill take a picture for you tomorrow when Im at work (that is where they are right now...soon to be taken home to my apt.) Are those pots worth getting for the oncidium?? Right now its in a plastic dish with some of the orchid potting mix and has been for about 3-4 years, there arent any drainage holes and it seems to be doing alright..blooms every winter with two or three branches of flowers.

    Herenorthere, thats just terrible...and most likely the reason most of the ones I get die off so quickly when I bring them home. My mom calls me the "bonsai and orchid killer" *ugh.

    Oh, OrchidGuy, I ordered that book you referred me to, I cant wait to read it. Ihave an orchid book that is orange I think, but I followed its directions with my Phal and darn near killed it!

    I just love orchids.

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    Here are my other two orchids...neither look as fabulous as they use to, although the Phal is doing much better...its growing a new leaf now that its done blooming.





    Im going to repot the Cimbidium today, Ill post a pic of it when I get done. Ive got a terracotta pot that I will put it into.

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    One thing I would suggest is that trim the Cymbidium leaf that has turned brown at the tip. Whenever I trim a leaf, I always dust it with cinnamon. This works quite well as a fungicide.

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    Really? Interesting. Can I do that with any plant..the cinnamon?

    So I repotted the Cimbidium and I cut off some of the brown coverings from the "bulb"-looking areas on what I thought was a dead area...well I was looking down farther into the "dead" part and its green in there so I left all but one, and the one was tiny and mushy so I clipped it out. Its root system was all bound and so I worked it apart the best I could (like the video had shown) and it had roots coming out of the bottom of the cup.

    It looks SO much better in a new pot. Its outside soaking up the sun and the 100 degree weather!

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    That's overdoing it, especially when it's newly repotted. Let it adjust indoors for the rest of the week and then put it out where it'll get shade for a few days and then give it more and more sun exposure, especially early morning and evening sun. Keep increasing the exposure and figure out what it'll tolerate.

    As for the pot the Phal is in, the shape is narrower than orchids like, but there's an easy fix. Find a clay pot that fits in the bottom, upside down. That'll eliminate dead space that might tend to stay soggy and will improve aeration.
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