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    I just hope they make it. I think the soil should be good...peat for acidity silica sand and perlite for aeration and drainage and pine needles for acidity and topdressing. And watering with 2 tsp. apple cider vineger per gallon of RO/distilled/rain water. What more could a cyp. ask for? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/confused.gif[/img]

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    And err on the side of under-watering. Unless there's a drought or the plant is sheltered from rain, you probably shouldn't water a Cyp. acaule in the northeast.
    Bruce in CT

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    Or if you mix was too open and not water retentive like my earlier mix which dried to dust and killed my last C. acaule. You have any expierence with Cyps Bruce?

    Thanks! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]

    EDIT: here are some macros of the soil I have them in. One didn't come out in focus too well, my bad.

    Primary mix, sandy peaty loamish type soil.


    Topdressing of various longleaf and shortleaf pine trees. They are situated under a longleafed one.




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    I've had them a few years, growing in a shallow 18" diameter pot with lots of holes drilled in the bottom. My main plant started as a sickly, single growth plant in a trade from someone in southern Florida who thought it might grow there. It bloomed for the first time last year and, when I refreshed the potting mix last year, it had at least five growth points. The smaller plant had at least three. But then came trouble.

    I've been growing them in an ~50/50 mix of rotting wood mulch and perlite. But I ran out of perlite and, when I took half of the mix to start a second pot of woodland plants, I added an ~40/40/20 blend of the mulch, vermiculite, and lava rock (the large, irregular perlite).

    The Cyps were slow to come out of dormancy this spring and none bloomed. Both plants grew from only one of all those healthy growth points and their roots are a mess.

    I think the new vermiculite rich mixture retains too much water. It drains freely, but remains very moist. It could have turned into a suffocating mass of ice during the winter. I've seen them grow in wet places, but experts often recommend growing them in fairly xeric conditions. Given the seasonal cyle of these plants, I'm just letting them go, hoping they'll make it to the end of summer. Then I'll repot them with the mulch-perlite mix in time for their Fall root growth.
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    Thanks for the info! I chatted with Jerry Fischer (Owner of Orchids Ltd.) and he said that the real key is sphagnum peat moss in the mix to acidify and retain moisture. A moderate layer of pine needles on the top is benefical for acidification factors and a small release of nutrient over time.

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    Yes, I keep the pine needles on top too. But mine did best when the mix didn't retain so much moisture. I just don't know whether the trouble I'm having now resulted from moisture now or during the winter.
    Bruce in CT

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    Well I don't think it would be in the growing season....mine died from being too wet....wild plants were pretty darn moist too.

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    This plant is a bog native in my backyard. It grows under ericaceous shrubs in highly acidic conditions. The bog is perpetually moist, but this species likes the hummocks beneath the shrubs where it grows in very long fibered sphagnum. There isn't a teeming population by any means. I think the trick will to keep the PH low and maintain good aeration. Good luck with your plants Dustin!
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