Maybe for you in S. California. But here in S. Florida it rains way too much for undrained containers. Plus, the quality of our water isn't good enough to keep the plants constanly waterlogged.[b said:Quote[/b] (Bugweed @ June 01 2006,11:19)] CCFC, all containers are, and have always been, undrained. The wetter the better as far as sarracenia are concerned.