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    Oh my Jim if you only knew....

    the one that you see in the background of that pic is a root cutting of mine,
    and there is also another root cutting that you dont see in that same container...Ive got backups

    I've learn the hard way, I also use Trichoderma and Bacillus monthly now as well... IMHO great stuff,

    Trichoderma info

    I use a cocktail of Ampac Biotech's strain (cold loving) with SubCulture's root innoculant

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    You're well ahead of the game! Thanks for the info. Now... where does one procure these products?

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    Jim,

    To get Ampac's product simply contact them directly, kelly will probably answer the phone or email.. she'll fix ya right up,

    http://ampacbiotech.net

    they have the patent on their strain, so they are the only source for it i believe, it has at least a two year shelf life if kept in the fridge,

    SubCulture's mfg website

    they distribute their products through hydro shops mainly

    usually i see a 6 month shelf life mentioned for it and "root sheild" (another brand of T-22)

    now this is relatively new terrain, so go slow at first... it has never caused any issues with my plants but of course your milage may vary

    I use it on as a monthly drench, as a soak for root cutting and in seed beds, read the independent data, it's very impressive

    the big thing now in large scale apps (golf courses, country clubs etc) is to spread some corn meal to encourage Trich growth, Trich loves it... Im wondering about adding a little corn meal to my cp mixes... but just a thought at the moment

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    I just have to say that I thought I'd heard every wacky "soil additive" going, but corn meal REALLY takes the cake- if it works, you must post results here please, as it sounds both ludicrous AND ingenius at the same time....
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    Mabudon,

    I know it sounds goofy, but the science and research backs it up... now Im just talking a sprinkling of it, not much... the cornmeal juice may be an alternative...
    with the tendency for cephs to suffer fungal attack the idea is to increase the therapeutic trichoderma levels, plus the resulting increase in root mass and nutrient uptake effciency


    Here is an excerpt about some research at Texas A&M:

    Biological Control of Soilborne Fungi

    It is known that certain fungal species in the genus Trichoderma feed on mycelium and sclerotia of Sclerotinia minor. Sclerotium rolfsii and Rhizoctonia sp. All peanut fields in Texas tested to date have a natural population of Trichoderma. For several years, tests have been conducted in Texas using corn meal to stimulate Trichoderma development as a way to control the major soilborne disease fungi. When yellow corn meal is applied to fields in the presence of moist surface soil, Trichoderma builds up very rapidly over a 5 to 10 day period. The resulting high Trichoderma population can destroy vast amounts of Sclerotinia, Sclerotium and Rhizoctonia. This enhanced, natural biological control process is almost identical to the processes that occur when crop rotation is practiced. The level of control with corn meal is influenced by: 1) organic matter source 2) soil moisture, 3) temperature, and 4) pesticides used. Seasonal applications of certain fungicides may inhibit Trichoderma. Testing will continue to determine the rates and application methods that will give consistent, economical control.


    http://stephenville.tamu.edu/pp/pdncr/index.html

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    Oh and fwiw the root cuttings in the backgroud are only 4 months old

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    Oh no, that's why I said "ludicrous AND ingenius", I am actually interested in hearing how it works out, I am still a relativley new Ceph owner and am still afraid to muck with them at ALL, so I'm hoping this idea has some applications THEN I might give it a shot, Cephs ain't really "avaliable" in Canada yet and I have to keep the ones I have as best I can for now
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