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    Just venting

    Sorry folks, I just need to vent. A while back, I had received a few packages of sarr seeds (sweet pitchers, purple pitchers, and variety pack). My students and I put together 3 different soil recipes, sowed the seeds, used either distilled or rain water and changed the water often, kept the soils moist, and used a combination of grow lights and natural lighting. We've read many of the postings and suggestions for growing them and we thought we were doing pretty good. The end of the school year came about, and nothing was still growing. I brought them home and kept up on taking care of them, and still nothing (it's been several months). Then, the other day I noticed some plant growth. I took some pictures and emailed my students that they are beginning to grow. The other day, I looked at the small growths and noticed that they were nothing more than grass growing. Aaargh! $@&*!!! I feel like a fool sending pictures of young grass growing to my students.
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    did you give them a cool/ damp stratification? sarr seeds need this cool and damp period to germinate. about 4 weeks. sorry to hear that you got no growth
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    This is kind of confusing, but keep in mind we were doing some experiments to see how we sowed the seeds and the soil type made any differences in their germination and plant growth/health. My students noticed that there were some variations of how to germinate the seeds, so they wanted to try some of the different techniques (and a few of their own), to see how they compared.

    Like I mentioned, we had 3 different soil types that seemed to be the most common types of soils used in growing cps/sarrs.

    We also tried different ways of caring for the seeds, but each type would also be spread out across the 3 different soil types. These were the common ones (some of the students tried a few of their own):
    Seed care #1: kept in an envelope, but not refrigerated. It was placed across the 3 different soil types and kept moist and kept in the small greenhouse.

    seed care #2: kept in an envelope and refrigerated. After several weeks of refrigeration, it was placed on its own 3 different soil types. It was then placed in the small greenhouse.

    seed care #3: kept in an envelope and refrigerated. After several weeks of refrigeration it was placed on its own 3 different soil types. Then the soil and seeds were refrigerated for a few weeks, then placed in the small greenhouse

    seed care #4: seeds were placed between 2 moist paper towels and refrigerated. Then seeds were placed in the soil and refrigerated again. Then the soil and seeds were placed in the green house.

    We were hoping to see some results out of some of them and use them for some comparisons.

    The common quote of Julius Sumner Miller runs through my mind, "it's not that the experiment failed, but we failed to meet the requirements for Nature to reveal its secrets to us." It still ticks me off!

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    Just curious about your seed source - was it reliable?

    For example, although I know the person is probably out there, But I have not yet heard of someone having Lowrie Sarracenia seed germinate (other seed yes).
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    Hey and welcome! First, Sarracenia take a long time to get to decent size. May I suggest something very easy, prolific, and fast like D. capensis? No special stratification required!

    As for your experiment, you said you put them in the fridge, but they were also damp/moist right?

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    The seeds should of been placed on the growing medium uncovered, if you buried them that could be your problem. Also, they may not of been good seeds for many reasons. Jack
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    What a bummer that it didn't work. What a cool thing to do in school. My science/biology teacher never even mentioned CPs...

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    The seeds that were given seed care #4 seem like the only ones that would maybe have a chance to sprout since cold wet stratification is a must.

    In the future it might be worth it to try something a little easier and faster like what JLAP said. You can watch D. capensis go from a seedling into a flowering plant in under a year in good conditions. Infact, most tropical sundews are pretty easy and fast growing. They make good test subjects due to their weedy nature.

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