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Thread: Does S. Purpurea survive total freezing

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedersonplants View Post
    Wow. It doesn't sound like these would survive in a container bog garden at all. i have no garage to move it to and no way to protect it from continuous freeze/thaw cycles.

    I do believe I'll stay with the refrigerator technique.

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    Sarracenia purpurea ssp purpurea ranges far north of Lansing, MI as you can see from this map http://www.amjbot.org/cgi/content/full/91/11/1930/F1

    If the container is big enough protect them from wind and the purpurea should be ok.
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    And I tote my poratble minibogs to attic for the winter. I have really good success with that approach. It's putting them back outside, in the spring that takes its toll on them!

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    If you have an area where you can dig a hole large enough to fit the container, you should be able to overwinter them outside. Tell us more about the container and your land situation and maybe someone will have an idea that can help you keep your fridge free of CPs next winter.
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    I live in a townehouse. The hole would have to be dug in the corner where the brick townehouse wall meets the cement porch. I am not even sure I could dig it deep enough because we have so much hardpan clay soil right under a foot or less of top soil.

    The foam chest is one from Omaha Steaks ( they send their meet with a huge chunk of dry ice in these chests with thicker walls than the ice chests you can buy.

    This area is on the north west side of my front porch. There are NO other protected options.

    Now if I owned this townehouse with a piece of land around it, I would just construct a cold frame and a nice greenhouse for those that want a warmer winter. I just get laughed at when I tell the property manager I want a greenhouse.

    This is a townehouse coop. Have been here for 21 years this September. Moved in when my son was 4 1/2 years old. He now owns the one he was raised in.

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    Thanks to my housing costs (includes everything EXCEPT electricity, telephone service and, of course, internet service. LOL), I can afford my gardening habit even though I live on a combination of retirement plus disability from my last full-time job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedersonplants View Post
    Hi:

    I am looking to buy a few S. purpurea. Do these plants survive total freezing in a situation where the bog might be frozen for a while, then unfreeze, then refreeze all winter long?

    If so, how do they survive or do they have some sort of antifreeze?
    Even the hardiest type of purps can only survive one freeze. Ours was doin great until the second...

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    Mine grow in above ground pots. They stay outside unless the temps go down to 20 or less. Then they go into an unheated garage. Northern purps would be the only ones, IMHO, that would be a sure bet to survive a strong freeze. They grow in some of the worst winter areas, such as the great lakes, Canada, and the like. Temps can get below zero and stay there a long time. The upper few inches of the soil will freeze hard. That would freeze the growing points and rhizomes. As a former Clevelander, I like to think I know a little something about winter.
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    Even the hardiest type of purps can only survive one freeze. Ours was doin great until the second...
    That would mean the entire population of purpureas in the wild would be wiped out since every winter sees periods of deep freeze and then thawing!

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