Thanks for the info Warren! Good stuff!! Oh, by the way, the seeds from you are doing well :-) Thanks again for those! One cper I know mentioned that if you get the seeds in young enough, before the pod turns brown, they can germinate. The closest I came to that was taking a young S. rubra pod that I didn't think had anything in it and when I cracked it open there were a few seeds! The pod was still green. So, being that I didn't pollinate the plant and I didn't care much for this one, and also just being somewhat lazy -- I just tossed the seeds with no stratification in the same pot as the s. rubra. (I know, messy of me) a couple months later, the seeds did germinate! There are a few small pitchers now.