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Thread: The "Bugweed Method" of Sarracenia seedling growing

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    The "Bugweed Method" of Sarracenia seedling growing

    Read about the "Bugweed Method" here.

    These plants are from seeds I had sown in Feb/Mar 2007. Seeds were from the ICPS seedbank.

    Seedlings were grown under lights 24 hours 7 days a week and warmed with a seed germinating pad thermostat controlled set to about 81F. Plants were feed sporadically with flightless fruit flies. I tried spraying with a dilute solution of Alaskan Fish emulsion (too stinky for indoors) and hand feeding with betta fishfood pellets (too labor intensive, pellets get stuck in nectar around the peristome).

    The tallest pitchers on the S. flava and S. rubra ssp alabamensis are 10-11 inches. Pitchers are burned and disfigured from striking the lights.

    The S. rubra ssp rubra appears to be a crappy grower. Perhaps inbreeding depression?

    June 29, 2008 (14-15 months old)

    S. flava

    S. rubra ssp rubra

    S. alata "Tyler Co, TX"

    S. leucophylla 'Hurricane Creek White' x ?

    S. rubra ssp alabamensis

    S. rubra ssp jonesii

    Today I took them out from under the lights to put them outdoors (24-25 months old)

    front row left to right: S. rubra ssp alabamesis, S. rubra ssp rubra, S. flava

    front row left to right: S. rubra ssp jonesii, S. alata, S. leucophylla 'Hurricane Creek White' x ?

    Observe the flowers on a couple of the S. rubra ssp alabamensis. Flowers at 24 months!



    (was trapped between pot and plant)
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    Nice plnats! I think under good care, most Sarrs grow faster than indicated in the popular literature. Rubras certainly seem to grow slower for me than others, and some of the hybrids grow really fast! I have right now hybrids that are almost 5 months old and several inches tall. Mine are kept at 75 and 16 hour photoperiod.
    Your rubras blooming at 24 months is AWESOME!! Nice looking plants there!

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    Thanks for the great photos and the link. Someone told me about that method but I hadn't seen it demonstrated, and couldn't locate it on the forum.

    I have several Sarracenia species seeds (also from the ICPS) cooling in the fridge and am looking forward to trying this out in two weeks . . .

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    They would grow even quicker if given there own pots. I have 12month old plants that are around 7inches and 24month old plants nearer 12inches.

    I also have the same aged plants but they have been left to get on with it and are crammed in, they are still tiny and dont grow anywhere near as quickly.

    Might be worth anther experiment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodnative View Post
    Nice plnats! I think under good care, most Sarrs grow faster than indicated in the popular literature.
    I think so too, others have posted photos of sun grown plants with phenomenal maturity.


    Quote Originally Posted by BigBella View Post
    How's the electric bill?
    Due to limited space and trying this as a test run I only had one seedling tray of plants. Four 24 inch T12 tubes so about 80 watts for the lighting. No idea how much the heat pad and thermostat consumes. Probe measures soil temps. So the electric bill from the lights wasn't much. My computer is my biggest energy consumer.

    Quote Originally Posted by -=Joel=- View Post
    They would grow even quicker if given there own pots. I have 12month old plants that are around 7inches and 24month old plants nearer 12inches.

    I also have the same aged plants but they have been left to get on with it and are crammed in, they are still tiny and dont grow anywhere near as quickly.

    Might be worth anther experiment
    That would make sense, less competition for light and other resources. Feeding them on a more regular basis would no doubt help. There were definite and observable growth spurts after feeding. The most dramatic was after the first time I feed them fruit flies.

    The problem with fruit flies is that there is no way make sure all the plants get feed.

    Foliar feeding with a liquid fertilizer is probably the best bet.
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    Very nice, interesting post, Warren. Congrats on your success! The colors are very vivid on those young plants.
    -Joel from Southern California


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    Impressive, those rubras are very nice.

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    Nice NAN! Mine are still very tiny though. Very Nice

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