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    Thanks for help me!
    Nursery is a nice idea but first I must identify my plants before selling.
    Have a nice day!

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    I'll just give a second opinion on sarracenia's ID's!


    1. flava x something. the wavy lid on the pitcher in the foreground makes me think there's some leucophylla in there, but the pitcher in the background doesn't, and looks more like a flava x alata cross.

    I'd go with flava x alata.


    2 + 3 look like leuco x purp hybrids, with maybe something else involved also.
    The V shaped pitcher makes me think minor. Maybe excellens x mitchelliana. It also looks a bit like a (mitchelliana x leuco) x areolate hybrid I have.
    3 looks more like a normal mitchelliana.

    4 (think this was missed) Pissibly mitchelliana x leuco

    5 looks a lot like leuco x (leuco x purp) hybrids I've seen.
    Yep, could be right. Red lid makes me think of a red lidded alata - maybe areolata x purpurea?

    6 looks like alata x minor to me
    I think I'd take a punt on rubra x minor

    7 looks like purp x minor
    Yep

    8 i think is purp x psittacina
    Yep

    9 is a cool plant, looks like a complex hybrid with leucophylla, psittacina and god knows what else.
    Could also be a psittacina x ? cross. What colour are the flowers?

    10 is S. minor
    Yep

    11+12 look to be the same plant, it looks mostly like S. flava, but i noticed the flower heads are upturned, which is a trait of S. leucophylla, so I'm going to guess it's a moorei backcrossed on a flava. an awesome plant, indeed!
    Feasible!

    13 looks like S. flava var. maxima
    Yes

    14 looks like another leuco x purp hybrid
    Yes

    15 a hybrid between flava and another upright species/hybrid
    Possibly flava x alata or flava x rubra.

    16 i'm going to guess is an alata x rubra hybrid
    I'd go for a pure rubra ssp. gulfensis

    17 i'm guessing leuco x purp or leuco x (purp x ?)
    Could be anything really!

    18 leuco x flava
    Yep

    19 i agree with cp-connection, some kind of introgressed purp hybrid, looks too upright to be pure purp.
    Is the flower red? It doesn't look that upright to me. Looks like a purp ssp. venosa.

    20 looks like purp x minor on left, and purp x leuco on right
    Yes

    21 another awesome leuco x flava hybrid
    Yep. Great plants.

    22 looks like leuco crossed with purp x flava
    Possibly. Or another excellens x mitchelliana. Looks like there's some minor in there.

    23 this is perhaps my favorite, looks like psittacina x flava. at first glance i thought it was an anthocyanin-free plant, but you can see red coloration at the growth points, and the developing pitcher has some color suffusion. very interesting and unique! i actually had a leuco x flava once that was similar to this, not anthocyanin-free, but appearing so at first glance.

    Psitt x flava I agree.

    24 alabamensis, as previously stated
    I'm not sure. Maybe ssp. wherryi

    25 flava x rubra, or flava x alata perhaps?
    Tough. Flava x something!

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    16 is S. rubra ssp. gulfensis because the next generation is equal the mother plant.
    24 is S. rubra ssp. alabamensis
    This 2 plants are identified. Thank you.
    The others I must foud the name of the hibrids .
    Please write me everything you guess !

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    ... if they aren't tagged and your not 100% sure you probably shouldnt consider sale of these items under a "suggested name"

    although they are very nice plants,

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    I know cmm889!
    Thanks!

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    yeah, i think the best you can really do for most of them is just label them "Sarracenia hybrid". I could be wrong, but I think most people buy on looks rather than heritage.

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    Agreed. I'll never know what my mix-breed dog is, but he's my best bud!

    Quote Originally Posted by cmm889 View Post
    ... if they aren't tagged and your not 100% sure you probably shouldnt consider sale of these items under a "suggested name"

    although they are very nice plants,

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    I suppose there's nothing wrong with saying you're not sure of the parentage, but have been advised it could possibly be x, y, z.

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