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    Never knew, or even heard of this

    Today i was at tony avent's nursery. I bought 2 sarrs, ladybug and doodlebug (well my dad bought the doodlebug) and i was talking to him about cps, mostly sarrs. there were 2 things he said that i never knew.
    1. i lose most of my plants over winter. the problem could be too much watering...
    he waters the pots of sarrs not too often, only along with other plants, and there is a bog, and all sarrs are in a raised area that doesnt get too much water. He said to prevent sarr /loss, i should drill drainage holes near the bottom of the pot. i will do that with mine. he also said they will tolerate just being watered regullary, like once a week(i would say). another proof of this is number 2.
    2. He had some sarrs, scarlet belle and dixie lace growing in regullar potting soil(there's has fertilizer) and they grow in the regular soil. I saw them myself, and he waters them only as often as the other pots. they were thriving and doing well, the only thing was many tall plants were blocking most of the sun.

    So this year, i will not water often(only when water is dry) and hopefully i will save my plants. i will try a judith hindle(i have like 6) in regular soil when i get back home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizasaur
    Minor x Purp I actually have. Well,technically it's Minor Okee x Psitt Green.

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    With almost all carnivorous plants that go dormant it is usually advisable to cut back watering. Many of the winter growing Drosera need to be almost bone dry while dormant. If you search this forum I'm sure you'll find numerous posts advising to cut back watering during dormancy.

    Lots of luck growing Sarracenia in nutrient rich media. The experience of the nursery flies in the face of much research and years of experience of many growers. Back in the early 70's I had bought a Darlingtonia and Sarracenia purpurea. I knew they needed "bog soil" but was totally ignorant about peat moss and could not find Sphagnum moss anywhere so I potted them in soil from our rose garden. You can guess what the outcome of that was.
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    Yeah, too much wetness during winter will rot them out. I keep mine in a garage over winter and never water them at all until around march, when I scoop snow from the driveway onto them.

    As far as growing them in regular soil, I can't speak from experience as to the effects, but I would guess the type of soil would make a big difference. If it's a mostly mineral soil, I would think the plants wouldn't last that long, maybe a year or two, probably depending on the clay content. If it's a rich, organic soil, they'd probably survive better. If it's a purchased potting soil, they actually may not do that bad - depending on the kind. I know some of them are mostly peat moss, with some other amendments, and it may not be that different from what is normally used. It could take several years to really notice if it's having any affect: whether the plant is getting larger each year and flowering, and overall looking healthy.

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    There is no such thing as "regular potting soil"..
    when you say "regular potting soil" you could be talking about any one of 50 totally different things..

    And I have found lately that many "regular potting soils" sold at places such as HD and Lowes are almost pure peat! so if the "regular potting soil" chosen happened to be almost pure peat..then well, it would probably work fine for CPs! otherwise..not so much.

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    I always look foward to his open house weekends. The gardens at Plant Delights are amazing. I spent about 4 hours there Friday and plan to go again next week, I also was talking with him about his CPs and he said in his nursery plants he uses Nutricote slow release fertilizer. He said the Osmocote fertilizer would burn them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottychaos View Post
    There is no such thing as "regular potting soil"..
    when you say "regular potting soil" you could be talking about any one of 50 totally different things..

    And I have found lately that many "regular potting soils" sold at places such as HD and Lowes are almost pure peat! so if the "regular potting soil" chosen happened to be almost pure peat..then well, it would probably work fine for CPs! otherwise..not so much.

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    For regular potting soil, i mean the top soil you order in dumptrucks and that thing, as for the watering, you dont need to water the plants as much as normal during summer. mainly let nature take care of it (ill do it with my purp and bog bowl)
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizasaur
    Minor x Purp I actually have. Well,technically it's Minor Okee x Psitt Green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awgaupp View Post
    For regular potting soil, i mean the top soil you order in dumptrucks and that thing,

    huh..never heard *that* referred to as "potting soil" before!
    ok then..I revise my statement:

    when you say "regular potting soil" you could be talking about any one of 51 totally different things..

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    OK. well, i consider all soil(even from the ground around my house) potting soil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizasaur
    Minor x Purp I actually have. Well,technically it's Minor Okee x Psitt Green.

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