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    Heliamphora looking rumpled; advice?

    Hey there gang, first post on the forum; need some help.

    I've been having pretty good luck with my heli as a first-time grower up until today - I noticed 3 of the pitchers are looking rumpled and shabby. I was surprised, as so far it's been doing really very well, lots of new growth in the 3-4 months I've had it. It's had periodic aphid issues that have been a quick fix w/ a fine-bristled old toothbrush sprayed with oil based insecticide.

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    It sits in a tank on a lattice over still water to help humidity, is about 80 during the days and 65 at night thanks to timed swamp cooling, top-watered 3x/ wk, 14-hour photoperiod. I have it in a tray to catch excess water, but don't really "tray water," I just use that as an indicator for when it's getting dry.

    Suggestions appreciated; photos below.

    Problem pitchers:



    Good Pitchers: (same plant)


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    what are you growing it in?
    it looks like it needs more light even still.
    Humidity maybe as well?

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    Growing in a terrarium w/ lattice surface suspended over water. Fogger runs at night w/ fan for swamp cooling. Humidity is listed at 83% as I type this. Pic below! Photo says temp is 69, which is high for at night but it's been a warm day here and the cooler just started.

    Could kick up the photoperiod, but the guy I bought it from gives them way less light than I do, and it was healthy when I bought it. I bet I over-watered the poor thing.

    Oh, and to anyone who's wondering, there's a younger heli in this tank that seems healthy, plus a cephalotus and 2 Nepenthes Rafflesania.


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    Increasing the photo period would not make up for lack of light intensity. I think they need brighter light in the long run.

    What's causing the leaf dessication is something else though. Looks like the base of the plant is rotting on that side. The leaves are shriveling because they are no longer receiving water from the rhizome which is dead/dying.
    Is that a Nepenthes in your pocket or you just happy to see me?

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    You can test if they are actually rotting buy slight tugging on a pitcher, if it comes out esily with a mushy brown base, than its rotting.


    Ummm Is that square thing your only light source, your look very light deprived, you might want to invest in stronger brighter lights. Only then will you get somethin like this

    Believe it or not, this is the same species as yours except it gets a lot of light.

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    Nope, that "square thing" is a fan that runs for swamp cooling at night, which is when this picture was taken with a flash - so the light looks very strange in this photo. They have 2 24-inch "Agrobrites" keeping things sunny. I'll check to see if things have gotten moldy and consider giving them give them more; thanks for the insight!

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    As others have said, the plant looks a bit light deprived. Once given stronger lights, it will start making colorful pitchers, and big nectar spoons, and will be healthier. Also, the very wide mouths of the pitchers will become smaller and sturdier, as seen in the photo posted by Carnivoure12

    Good luck with it
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    IMHO, the dessication of leaves that are still green is a bad sign....
    Two likely possibilities: 1. lack of water 2. root issues

    If watering has been sufficient then I would be digging her up and trying to remove any dead or dying tissue,

    Be proactive, the clock is ticking

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