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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexis View Post
    Putting it outside now would give it 4 weeks of cool, but not cold weather, which should be enough to lead it into dormancy I would have thought.
    you would only have 4 weeks of "going dormant"..which isnt enough time..
    then 4 weeks of "being dormant"..which isnt enough time..
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    The plants are not dormant now..you cant just take a plant that has been indoors, stick it outside in cool temps and expect it to go dormant instantly..it doesnt work like that..and it will just shock the plant..
    "going dormant" is a process that takes several months before the dormancy season (winter) begins!
    plants go dormant, outdoors, through July-Aug-Sept-Oct..and they are fully dormant by November..
    THEN they need to be maintained at a cool temp, 35-55 degrees, for 2 or 3 months..
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottychaos View Post
    you would only have 4 weeks of "going dormant"..which isnt enough time..
    then 4 weeks of "being dormant"..which isnt enough time..
    I dont know about dormancy happening in July/August except maybe for oreophila but a lead into dormancy period seems to be key. This is why I've found it very difficult to keep Sarrs indoors. Shorter photoperiods simply DO NOT do it. You need both the temp drops + photoperiod drops. October-November are what I've noticed to be lead in periods while December-February are the actual dormancy months. March/April seem to be the waking up period while June - August are peak growing months.

    For my fridge dormancy I give until Mid-November outside then bring everything into the fridge until late February while keeping an eye on the night temps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F R e N c H 3 z View Post
    I dont know about dormancy happening in July/August except maybe for oreophila but a lead into dormancy period seems to be key.
    Thats what ive been saying!
    you need the "lead in" period..(thats a great way to describe it! thanks!
    (everyone will probably start using that now!

    No, dormancy doesnt "happen" in July/August..but the "lead in" period begins in July and August..arguably the dormancy process begins at the Summer Solstice in late June..when days start to get shorter..the plants then begin the gradual "lead in" period through July-Aug-Sep-Oct..Maybe July isnt part of the 'lead in" period..its a grey area..but August and Sep definatly are..

    Humans ooperate on a 24 hour cycle of awake-sleep..
    Plants operate on a 12-month cycle of awake-sleep!
    Plants need all 12 months..with different photoperiod and temps in each of those 12 months..
    which, again, is why growing VFT's and Sarrs indoors is no good..you cant replicate the subtle differences month to month..but the plants need those subtle differences..because "lead in, dormancy, wake up, growing" are each long drawn-out periods, that blend into each other..

    Scot

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottychaos View Post
    Thats what ive been saying!
    you need the "lead in" period..(thats a great way to describe it! thanks!
    (everyone will probably start using that now!

    No, dormancy doesnt "happen" in July/August..but the "lead in" period begins in July and August..arguably the dormancy process begins at the Summer Solstice in late June..when days start to get shorter..the plants then begin the gradual "lead in" period through July-Aug-Sep-Oct..Maybe July isnt part of the 'lead in" period..its a grey area..but August and Sep definatly are..

    Humans ooperate on a 24 hour cycle of awake-sleep..
    Plants operate on a 12-month cycle of awake-sleep!
    Plants need all 12 months..with different photoperiod and temps in each of those 12 months..
    which, again, is why growing VFT's and Sarrs indoors is no good..you cant replicate the subtle differences month to month..but the plants need those subtle differences..because "lead in, dormancy, wake up, growing" are each long drawn-out periods, that blend into each other..

    Scot

    We're talking about the same thing then!
    Lead in is muy importante!


    Scotty: You should check out 'Revenge of the plants' if you get a chance, it has a nice piece about plant sleeping cycles!

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