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    The Savage Garden says that Heliamphora Minor can actually thrive in a hot-house.

    I'm thinking of getting one to grow on my porch here in Florida.
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    Doesn't d'Amato also define a hothouse at the beginning of the book as a greenhouse that's not allowed to drop below 50 or 60 degrees F? Not necessarily lowland conditions. The Savage Garden is a great resource but certainly not definitive; there are some outright errors and it was written in the mid-90s. I would definitely double-check information in it related to the lesser-known genera.
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    PS - Er, where'd I get lowland? Now I'm the one putting words in people's mouths. H. heterodoxa does great for me even in the peak of the summer heat - it might be worth a try. I think it appreciates a nighttime drop but can cope with just a small drop or periods of muggy nights. You might have more success if you have an air-conditioned room to stash it in during heat waves.
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    Well, I do have my 4' wide T8s, but I put them away due to moving into a very small (6'x8') room at a friend's house. Could reinstall them I suppose. My plants are doing ok with the south facing window, although they're nowhere near as red as before, unfortunately.

    You guys make a good point though. I think I'll concentrate on getting my Drosera and Pings doing well before working on anything else. Have a Ping. 'Titan' that is finally coming back from dying back to a 1mm wide sprout, and my P. Gigantea finally flowered.

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    Your Nep appears to be doing quite well, too. Neps are great plants to focus on because they've got a lot of value in trade. If you got some nice hybrids or desirable species going in your collection you could trade for a Heliamphora or Cephalotus with little trouble. With your setup, you might consider buying a small HID lamp; I've seen compact ones marketed at orchid growers for as little as $80. HIDs tend to be intense enough that you can have a few feet of distance from the plants, so you could continue to use your rack and just supplement with artificial light at noontime or during a part of the day that the window isn't getting direct sun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfn View Post
    The Savage Garden says that Heliamphora Minor can actually thrive in a hot-house.
    Where did you see this? In glancing through SG, I have a somewhat different take. D'Amato mentions that some H. minor grow in the lowlands and later notes that lowland varieties will do well in a hothouse. Right above this, he notes that Heli's will do well in a coolhouse or warmhouse - near swampcooler or misting system (pg 116). Unless I missed something (quite possible) , he doesn't recommend growing all H. minor's in a hothouse - just lowland varieties.

    Brian Barnes (Drosera5150) grows several varieties in Florida & I believe even wrote a tutorial on keeping them - either here or over on the ICPS forum iirc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RL7836 View Post
    Where did you see this? In glancing through SG, I have a somewhat different take. D'Amato mentions that some H. minor grow in the lowlands and later notes that lowland varieties will do well in a hothouse. Right above this, he notes that Heli's will do well in a coolhouse or warmhouse - near swampcooler or misting system (pg 116). Unless I missed something (quite possible) , he doesn't recommend growing all H. minor's in a hothouse - just lowland varieties.

    Brian Barnes (Drosera5150) grows several varieties in Florida & I believe even wrote a tutorial on keeping them - either here or over on the ICPS forum iirc.

    It says under "Hot House" that the lowland Heliamphoras can be grown in a hot-house. H. Minor and H. Heterdoxa are lowland Heliamphoras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfn View Post
    It says under "Hot House" that the lowland Heliamphoras can be grown in a hot-house. H. Minor and H. Heterdoxa are lowland Heliamphoras.
    Wolf, the term lowland is relative when dealing with Heliamphora. Most H. minors are 1900-2500m and most "lowland" heterodoxa are 1100-1400m
    (McPherson et. al.,) neither of which I would really call or treat as a "lowland" plant.

    There is currently a conversation going on about the only "true" lowland Heliamphora... (newly identified)

    and it's by some of the true gurus of Heliamphora
    http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index...=260426&st=0&#

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