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    Cephalotus problems

    Ok, to make sure that I cover all the bases I'll give a rundown on the chain of events...

    1. 2 months ago I got my cephalotus, it looked good and I noticed it was in a peat/sand mix. I was told that it would be fine in such a mix and I read that in dense mixes like that it is better to keep it a bit drier an the surface.....so I did.

    2. 2 weeks later I noticed that some of the smaller pitchers were turning yellow, but overall the plant looked good. When I asked about this I was told that the top of my mix looked too dry. I then decided to keep my plant a bit more wet, but not sitting in water.

    3. At the end of last month I noticed two new growth points coming up, I figured that maybe my decision to keep it more damp payed off. Now a week later the growth points are large with leaves and a a pitcher tendril each, but a few of the leaves are turning yellow on one side of one growth point.

    I haven't watered in a few weeks, but the soil hasen't dried out much and the top is still damp (this mix seems to really hold water). My conditions are temps of 68F day and 54F night and a humidity of 60% day and 85% night with good airflow. I never mist the plant or allow water to get in the crown. I have fed it some ants but not fertillized it and I use rain water to water it. It gets enough light to turn the pitchers and leaves reddish.

    Anybody have any ideas?

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    exo,

    ask this of 20 people and you are likely to get 20 conflicting answers....

    so for what its worth, from what info you have given....
    the fact that you haven't watered in weeks sounds very odd to me. If its still doesn't need watering weeks later then I would change something. I always water mine weekly at most, and usually more often then that. Depending on mix, some as often as daily.

    Watering also facilitates a gas exchange in the root system, as the water percolates down fresh air is pushed in behind it.

    Most plant roots need oxygen, if that environment becomes "stale" then root health will decline. If CO2 levels get over just a few percentage points in this zone then plants die.

    If you're worried about getting the crown wet do the "dunk and drain method". Put the pot in a pan of water that goes up to about an inch or so below the surface level. Let it sit a few mins then pull it out and let it drain. As the water drains fresh air will enter the root zone.

    If you havent watered in weeks then something is wrong with this picture...

    But of course YMMV,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Av8tor1 View Post
    exo,

    ask this of 20 people and you are likely to get 20 conflicting answers....

    so for what its worth.... from what info you have given....
    the fact that you haven't watered in weeks sounds very odd to me. If its still doesn't need watering then I would change something. I always water mine weekly at most, and usually more often then that.

    Watering also facilitates a gas exchange in the root system, as the water percolates down fresh air is pushed in behind it.

    Roots need oxygen, if that environment becomes "stale" then root health will decline. If CO2 levels get over just a few percentage points in this zone then plants die.

    If you're worried about getting the crown wet do the "dunk and drain method". Put the pot in a pan of water that goes up to about an inch or so below the surface level. Let it sit a few mins then pull it out and let it drain. As the water drains fresh air will enter the root zone.

    But of course YMMV,
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    The soil is still pretty damp, you think I should water it anyway?
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    If you havent watered in weeks then why is it still damp?

    That's the first issue i would address

    is the substrate holding too much water?
    is there insufficient airflow?
    etc etc etc

    The soil remaining damp for weeks is a symptom of a more fundamental problem IMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Av8tor1 View Post
    If you havent watered in weeks then why is it still damp?

    That's the first issue i would address
    Well, the sand/peat mix it came in is pretty dense stuff, so I guess that might be why. I was told that some people grow them fine in mixes like that, so I decided to not risk disturbing it and leave it be.

    The airflow in the chamber is good, so I'm kinda shocked that it has stayed damp so long.
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    Well like i said, ask 20 people.... but I know what i would do if it was mine

    It would need watering at least weekly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Av8tor1 View Post
    Well like i said, ask 20 people.... but I know what i would do if it was mine

    It would need watering at least weekly...
    So what kind of mix should I repot it in, if that is what you reccomend?
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    My fav mix for years has been

    deep containters filled with:

    30% Milled Sphagnum (Peat is acceptable)
    25% Coir fiber
    25% Perlite or APS
    10% Sand
    5% Charcoal
    5% Chooped Live Sphagnum

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