Funny how this reminds me of a "Timmy" situation!
It is hard to even take this sort of thing seriously.
In view of recent, related events, this doesn't merit a legitimate response;
and apparently nor does providing advice as requested on previous posts. There seems to be no point in it any longer.
This situation is only one of many examples of how things have really deteriorated here lately.
It is sad really, as this was once a very nice place to share and associate with other experienced and knowledgeable growers. At least that used to be part of the cross-section of active members here. The type of members who I think added a lot to this place.
Maybe it is just me, but lately this feels more like the kids table at Thanksgiving
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than it does a forum of both new, and experienced, dedicated growers.
It is things like this that have happened lately, that make me think my opinions, advice and knowledge are no longer needed here (if they ever were). I certainly appreciated that of others, and valued their input in time past. But what I see going on here, well, I just don't understand it. Nor is it what I came here for.
PS: SirK, I think you are wasting your understanding on those who either don't understand at all, or don't care.
Addition: You can tell some "noobies" by their views and understanding, which obviously come from a lack of experience. While some will listen to the reasoning of more experienced growers (to their own benefit) others will not. Back when I was new to growing, "noobies" automatically respected those who had been growing for a long time. We could see and value their advice and wisdom, and while on occasion there would be a difference of opinion, no one was arrogant or rude toward others. Funny as I remember, most of the differences of opinion, in time usually proved what the experienced grower was saying all along.
But there are always new ways and new methods, which is something that even the good experienced "old timers" realized, and it always amazed me that for as much as they knew, they were also always open to learning more and involved in experimenting to try something different.
The problems here in this faceless forum, is that for new growers it is near impossible to know who has real wisdom and experience, and who is just repeating others advice or talking as if they themselves have the knowledge and experience they claim to. Those of us with experience will often be able to judge, merely by listening to what someone says! [And if I ever acquired one of these Cephs, I would NOT be able to call it by its "name", as I know I couldn't trust it as being true. Nor would I trade it as such, however I would trade it including its history, which would be appropriate under the circumstances. A new grower who comes out immediately with an unheard of variety *Red Hummer* cannot be just given the "benefit of the doubt", nor in view of the circumstances, could his plants now be assumed to be what they are claimed to be. An experienced grower would never be that irresponsible! At least not any growers who I have learned from or have earned my trust.]
(And growing plants for a year or two will not usually give someone a well rounded knowledge of how to do all the basics, but then you can't really measure knowledge and experience by how long someone has been growing plants. I know people who have grown for 5 years, but still never transplanted a plant nor had much experience starting seeds or dividing plants.) Wisdom doesn't always come with age and experience.
As I keep telling people here, everyone has an opinion! Even people who don't know what they are talking about!
(This all reminds me of the humorous statement I once heard, and I bring it up in jest: Those of you who think you know everything, are annoying those who do!) Good luck all, you are going to need it!
If nothing else, I am amazed and saddened at the attitude some noobies have here. They must not have grown up receiving much respect (or perhaps received way, way too much that was undeserved), as they certainly don't show any to others. Not something any of us would dare to ever do years ago. It does say a lot about a person, however! And again, another example of what I was mentioning earlier.