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    Nice little ceph.

    I'm wondering what is the color temperature of that light? It might just be the photo, but it looks like the kind they sell for living room lamps, which would be coming in at about 2700k. If it is then you need to up the Ks (Kelvins). Cool white fluorescent bulbs are about 4100-4200k (good). Daylight CFL bulbs are 6500k (better). My plants seem to like a mix of those two. I agree with everybody: You need more light. Your plants will be happier. You really need to add more CFLs if that's what you want to use. I should think that four 100w-equivalent bulbs would be enough for this group of plants, but I wouldn't put them in that box.

    Considering the kinds of plants you have in this group, I would suggest taking the tub out of the box entirely and just put it out on one of those shelves. It would eliminate the fire hazard, and you could hang as many lights as you want to on the shelf overhead without having to worry about overheating. (You really don't need the foil either.) Ventilation would not be an issue since the plants would be out in the open, and you would be able to enjoy them any time without having to open a box. You don't really need to go to extraordinary lengths to provide humidity for any of the plants you have there. It's just not necessary. Adequate humidity would be provided by the water in tub underneath, and if you are worried about it, you could add a couple of more tubs the size of the one in the picture on either side with a little water in them to boost the humidity around the plants. A very gentle fan (whisper-on-the-cheek strength) blowing over one of the extra water tubs timed to come on several times a day for a half hour would increase the humidity even more, but it's not really necessary.

    I always top-water any of my cephs that are growing inside enclosures, but I use water trays under the ones I have out in the open because the lower humidity tends to dry out the pots more quickly. The pot your ceph is in looks shallow, so I would keep a very low water level under the pot if you are going to liberate it from the box. Maybe a centimeter. (It can go up and down a bit.)

    BTW, in reference to another thread (http://www.terraforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=125693), do not pour coffee on the ceph or on any of the other plants in the photos. Nepenthes only.

    Cheers!

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    The light bulbs are Soft white compact Flourescent bulbs 26 watt 100 watt replacement light output 1750 lumens energy used 26watts life 10,000 hours 2,700K that's all of the info on the light bulbs and i agree i don't care if the humidity is 15% they don't really NEED IT! Thanks for the other info to i think i am going to try that right now but one prob how will i get the light to hang over the plants? Also since they are in the box with tin foil around ther box don't you think that is enough? Thanks everyone for the info PLEASE KEEP IT UP I NEED TO KNOW ANYTHING I CAN!

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    Ok i moved all of them out of the box and found a way to hang the light directly in the middle of all of them sitting in the tup of disstelled water and the Cephalotus is not well it really is really isn't i cut the bottom of a plastic cup off and put the Cephalotus in it and so it wouldn't be sitting in water waiting for it's roots to rot to no end. I am going to Lowe's at 12:45 PM today to get another light or two with a connector so i can plug it up into a exstension cord and light it up please anymore infois welcomed and i also sprinkled VERY LITTLE silica sand around the Cephalotus so the moss wouldn't over grow it and it wouldn't root rot just in case i gave it to much water it will sortof keep it a little moist/damp so thanks please any other pepople with other info please tell me i need to know everything i can that i am doing right and wrong THANKS!

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    The moss won't really hurt your ceph, and neither will silica sand. However, the moss will probably eventually cover the sand, too. I wouldn't worry about it. You can carefully trim it back with some scissors if it gets too long and you don't like that.

    Cephs aren't really that hard to grow, but there are some things that will impact their health. They like the soil to be more moist instead of soggy-wet, and they don't like to have hot roots. In a household environment neither should be a problem. Household temperatures are fine, and it's easy to keep track of watering. Stagnant air encourages mold, so if they are in an enclosure it should ventilated–not be completely closed. Mostly, leave it pretty much alone after you get it situated. Resist the temptation to tinker with it. And, never ever fertilize it.

    Something I've found with my cephs is that they seem to respond positively to getting a very light misting at night, light being the operative word. You don't want to wet them down–more like one squirt in their general direction. It sounds counter-intuitive, like that should be done during the day so they have time to dry out, but I've seen a definite improvement in mine with a nightly misting.

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    Rondom because that's what i started doing last night with the misting.

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    I think your enclosed growing chamber concept is very interesting. You probably are already aware to look out for overheating and to provide some additional ventilation if necessary. I'm amazed at the growth you get with just the one CF light.

    I'm not yet confident enough of my limited success with Cephalotus follicularis, that I would give any advice on growing it. I see that many of your other CP, especially Drosera indica /D. hartmeyerorum seem to be growing well.
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    D. indica and yes VERY WELL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eou812 View Post
    please any other pepople with other info please tell me i need to know everything i can that i am doing right and wrong THANKS!
    Right: Keep the temperatures chilly within its natural climate range, see http://www.worldweather.org/185/c00356f.htm#climate

    Wrong: Keep the temperature always too high which is likely to happen when keept indoors under heavy artificial lighting all year round.

    Cephalotus are prone to limp roots and root rot and long-term cultivation becomes a challenge when temperatures are too high for too long.

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    thanks.

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