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    Helimaphora from seed: old school and new school . . .

    Some of you are probably aware of my fondness for seeds -- and, especially, for seed-grown plants; and here is a selection of Heliamphora, sown 15 June and an example of some grown in vitro from 2009. I have another batch (in the fridge, next to my Guinness) ready for culturing this coming Monday; and I will update this post next week.

    It may seem contradictory to some to also be fond of tissue culture or micro-propagation; but it is not necessarily the case. Often, when I obtain "valuable" seed, I like to spread the risk (especially considering their potential age and sundry, ugly issues with Customs); some are sown conventionally; others treated with gibberellic acid; and others are germinated aseptically, only to be planted in compost within a few months. I generally don't multiply plants in flasks -- the most common use of tissue culture. So, one still has seed-grown plants; it is only that the germination of some of them have occurred in TC media; and it is then no different from those who do so with seed in wet paper towel or water.

    For the few to one who happens to be interested, my preferred TC media for Heliamphora is 2/3 Knudsen C; 0.1mg/l NAA; 25 grams sucrose; 1 ml/l PPM.

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    Heliamphora pulchella: 2009
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    This thread is a thing of beauty! I have been searching for a Heli media recipe for about 4 days now.

    Do you find heli seeds to be extra wispy? I have to hold my breath when moving mine around or else...poof! There flying everywhere!

    Thank you for sharing your methods! Definitely subscribing to this one.

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    interested....very. thanks for sharing David!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NY Plant Nerd View Post
    This thread is a thing of beauty! I have been searching for a Heli media recipe for about 4 days now.

    Do you find heli seeds to be extra wispy? I have to hold my breath when moving mine around or else...poof! There flying everywhere!

    Thank you for sharing your methods! Definitely subscribing to this one.
    You're too kind . . .

    Oh, the seeds are "wispy" and then some -- to the nth degree, as a matter of fact; and it becomes quite clear how the plants can spread across several neighboring tepuis, with or without the assistance of birds. I was reminded of the cocaine scene in Annie Hall when dealing with Heliamphora seeds for the first time . . .
    “Sì perché l'autorità dell'opinione di mille nelle scienze non val per una scintilla di ragione di un solo . . ."

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    @bigbella: concerning TC, have you ever tried using a liquid media? i've had a friend say he had stellar results with liquid rather than gel, presumably because the gel does not allow homogeneity of the nutrients dispersed...the plant uses up the surface nutrients but is unable to access the supply near the bottom of the tube...
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    I have always had success with a gel media with them; but I am always up to try other techniques . . .
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    very,very nice david :-)

    gotta love a CP'er.... they keep dormant plants, UHL, Trich or TC stuffs in their fridge
    ummmm next to the Guiness, of course :-)

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    Thanks, Butch; and true enough, I have a few jars of media waiting for Monday, along with said Guinness (a few cans short of a case), plant hormones, Trichoderma (thanks, once again to you); left-over kung pao squid from take-out Chinese, some fish trimmings and baccalà to make soup, Sarracenia seeds -- and colchicine, not to be confused with hot mustard . . .
    “Sì perché l'autorità dell'opinione di mille nelle scienze non val per una scintilla di ragione di un solo . . ."

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