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    Heliamphora Trouble

    I remember reading somewhere that you shouldn't worry when Heli pitchers go brown as long as the brownness doesn't start at the base. Well that has happened on a pitcher that is just weeks old..
    Should I be worried? Can anyone tell me a possible cause?
    It's also just stopped growing after a nice growth spurt incase that means anything.
    Thanks for any advice!

    Here's some pictures




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    Can't help you on this one, but out of interest, where did you get it from?

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    Unpot and inspect.... remove any rotten material, treat with a good soak in a Trichoderma brew, repot in open mix and keep on the cool side.

    Very possibly "Sudden Heli Death" disease

    A common heli fungal attack when helis are kept in too warm of temps.
    If so, it's game over if you wait too long to treat.

    HTH's,
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    Thats not good! Thanks so much for the quick response though, I didn't realise 26C would be too hot!
    Im assuming rotten material involves the browning pitcher? Also would I have to dilute the trichoderma first? Finally are there any other fungicides that I could use if I cannot find trichoderma? Thanks again for your advice

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    Tom,

    26C should be fine... there is no fine line that you cant cross. Its just more likely the hotter they get. Additional stresses may have came into play... cant really say

    Sorry, but Im not familiar with the Trichodema/fungicides on your side of the pond.... I think Canna brand trich (T22 strain) is what you will have available and omg is it expensive there

    Maybe someone in your neck of the woods will chime in

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    Hi,
    Beyond what AV mentions to get your plant to recover, I can only offer some general plant information, a guideline we used to follow years ago...
    When a plant gets leaves that dry/brown at tips, then it is too dry (or the lights too close burning the tips)...
    When it browns at the leaf base, it may be too wet, rotting from the base.

    Sometimes there are other reasons, like a change in conditions, too warm or too cool a draft, etc.

    In this case to determine the cause & not have it occur again, I would check to see that the media is draining well, and not sitting in water too much. Do you have decent ventilation? Also, if you filled the pitchers, did you put anything in them (bugs/fertilizers/etc.) ?
    That could cause pitcher browning if it is, as the ferts/bugs are sometimes too big a meal for the plant. On Sarrs & some of my Neps, this occurs when feeding is done... especially when my Sarr pitchers fill with bugs or I over-did the "juice" to one of my Neps.
    (Did you "feed" the plant? Over-doing bugs & chemicals is more common than under-doing!)

    Keep a close eye on other leaves... if it continues then you ought to consider changing its conditions (watering, light, air circulation, temps, etc.), but if it is only this one leaf, then perhaps you have nothing to worry about.

    Well, that's my opinion on things in short. Indeed, AV has nailed things on the head. He has more knowledge & experience with these particular plants than I do & is advice is as accurate as you can get.

    Good luck!
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    Tom....

    From the UK based forum on sourcing trich:
    http://www.cpukforum.com/forum/index...dpost&p=304900
    I have no idea of the product's quality nor spore count.... might want to touch base with Mobile
    (He is a regular here as well...)

    (btw, FWIW I consider 26C to be the recommended upper limit temp wise)
    HtH's
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    I'v only had this happen from my plants catching prey that was too large...are the plants being overfed?
    Some days it just isn't worth chewing thru the restraints.

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