Some days it just isn't worth chewing thru the restraints.
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Ive grown helis in 40-60% RH and they did very well.....
You can find a happy medium easily enough, I would be more worried with airflow and temps.
Hot and stagnant equals death for both, especially the heli
lol@exo.... you nut
OK, So I put the Heli in a terrarium. Humidity was 60-70% and temps where low 82'f in the day and 70'f at night. I have four T8 lights over it.
For air flow I just ordered this:
What do you have on the base of your terrariums? Just water? Egg crate, long fiber sphagnum moss?? Something else?
@steve: egg crate works...especially when water is filled with it....raises the ambient humidity. as for 70F at night, i'd strongly advice you to push your temps down even further. 70F is too warm for these plants at night time. in the wild, the temps go as low as 45F.
I don't know how this is possible, but I have the following growing next to each other in the same terrarium successfully:
Sarracenia purpurea venosa
All of them are producing healthy, colorful traps. They are also growing quite quickly too. Well, except for my Cephalotus. I repotted it in fresh soil about two weeks ago and it went into a bit of suspended animation. But now it's starting to grow again (I see the fuzzy grow center sending out new leaves)
"I may be on the side of angels, but do not mistake me for one."
Anyways, onto my experience with growing cephs and Helis together...
I don't have too much experience in growing either of these plants, compared to some people on the forum, but I have been growing a Cephalotus Follicularis alongside multiple Heliamphora species, with pretty good results. The Helis I've grown the ceph with, have included Minor, Heterodoxa, Pulchella, Nutans, and Heterodoxa x. Minor. The conditions that I grow mine under are as follows:
Daytime Temp. 75-80F
Nighttime Temp. 65-70F with some nights down closer to 60F
Humidity 70-75% during the day and about 80-85% at night
I have a simple shoplight for lighting, 2 T8 or T5 bulbs (I'll have to check which), each bulb is a 32W "soft white" bulb. I also have a plain old 60W compact fluorescent bulb angled into the terrarium, so that it casts it's light in a wide and even distribution, on most of the plants, which includes my Helis and cephs. I have a humidifier that runs 30min before the lights come on, all day while they're on, and then it turns of 30min after the lights go off. It then comes back on again at 12:00am and 3:30am, for 5min each time. I don't have any cooling fans, but I have lots of air movement in the room with the terrarium, which is provided by a rotating floor fan. I am going to be adding 2 small computer fans so that the ventilation is better in the terrarium, because there is algae starting to grow on the surface of the pots. I figure that if the fans take out enough humidity to really change anything, I can always add more with the humidifier, but if I am not getting enough air circulation, then something needs to be done, hence the fans.
So far, under these growing conditions my ceph is looking very nice, it's still pretty young, so it hasn't developed full colors, but it is a nice green color with some nice darker areas, as well as some nice reds mixed in. The Helis that have been grown with it all seemed to grow pretty well, not as good of color as, for example Butch's Helis, but I only know a few people who can really even come close to his Helis as far as color. All of the Helis grow at a normal growth rate for their species, and have pretty good colors, very nice, soft greens, with some great reds in the mature plants. I did notice that the Helis were a little bit less good looking w hen they had somewhat warmer nights, ~70F, and a little bit lower humidity, 55-65%. After making some changes to my growing area and techniques, they seem to be doing better. I would post pics, but right now my only Helis are divisions that were divided very recently, so they don't look as nice as they otherwise might. My ceph is looking really nice, and I'm actually getting two more, Hummers Giant and Vigorous Clumping, so I'll post pics of those tomorrow, after they arrive. As always, if you have any questions about how I set things up for my terrarium, or about anything, feel free to ask, I'd be glad to share...I don't have too many dark secrets
Last edited by HeliGoddess; 09-08-2011 at 08:44 PM.
I have been growing cephalotus for 2 years and heliamphora minor for 4 months. I grow both indoor under the same conditions:
RH low 30s to high 60s
Temp high 60s to low 90s
Lighting 2*2ft T5 6500k 7 inches above plants.
I do not grow these in a terrarium. Cephalotus can definitely be grown in RH of 35-50 and temps of 75-85 for at least 3 months in my experience. Even though I have only been growing the heliamphora minor in these summer conditions for a few months I'm positive they can be grown with the cephs year round.
Im late i know.
I grow 10+ heliamphora minor, 3 heliamphora pulchella and 2 big cephs in the same terra.
The nights temp is 15C, day 23C.
Its perfect for ceph, and heli.
I have 90% RH. And i think its great for ceph too.
But you have to be logic. If you grow your cephalotus at 90%RH, water the ceph like a nepenthes. No standing water. And always put your ceph on a little hill made with soil in the pot. This will add some air to the roots/crown. You can add more air to the roots by shaking the water bottle before watering the plant.