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    Heliamphora and Cephalotus in the same Terrarium?

    As I am thinking about moving my Heliamphora and Cephalotus in to terrarium, can they be in the same terrarium? I am pretty new to both, so bare with me.

    Are not their temperature and humidity requirements different for both?
    Also Helis can sit in small amounts of water, but Ceph. do not like it?
    My orchid shelve where I want to put the terrarium is usually around 80f in the day and 70f at night, I know it would be hotter in the terrarium. Would that be a big problem for the Heli?

    Although as summer ends here in the USA would be me cooler, as I keep my house 65-70'f in the Winter.

    Also what else would be happy on a terrarium? I also have Nethenpes, Sundews, VFTs, sarracenia and butterworts.

    I appreciate ALL of the help!
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    I grow all my nepenthes, helis, and cephs in the same HL growchamber and they do well, temps are 80F day and 65F night this time of year, and 65F day and 45F night in the winter...humidity is 80%.

    The temps you mentioned are probably too warm for the heli...at least in the terrarium.
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    @steve: you're going to have to figure out whether you will be able to grow cephs and helis in the same tank. i have tried doing this in the past. i tried and i failed. my conditions proved too wet for the cephalotus which severely set back its growth....

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    I'm a fan of just dumping plants wherever and having them make due, but honestly helis like higher humidity and I hear really high humidity is bad for cephs because they get crown rot. Seems like it might come down to either scorched heli nectar spoons but happy cephs, or happy helis and the constant fear of killing your cephs. Otherwise, mine got the same amount of light and sat in the same amount of water with the same fertilizer mixture in the water. The cephs were in 2 perlite : 1 peat, the helis were in lfs : perlite.

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    I thought Butch was growing Heliamphora and Cephalotus in the same chamber?
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    @NaN: Butch has some magic mojo that causes the vapor from his humidifier to evaporate quickly as it empties the tube. my setup does not do that, and consequently, the mist settles on to the crown of my ceph. apparently wet enough to cause the crown to rot...
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    I've got a Heliamphora minor and a Cephalotus growing right next to each other in my tank. It's a 10-gallon tank under 125watt light. It gets about 85-90 degrees in the day and just under 80 at night.

    Both plants are thriving and producing mature traps in this tank for almost a year.
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    What Heliamphora species are you growing Steve? I think the biggest problem you will have is too much humidity for the Cephs. I grow H. Minor and H. Puchella with my Cephalotus on a grow rack and don't do anything to increase humidity.

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