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    Quote Originally Posted by Av8tor1 View Post
    The APS maintains a nearly perfect moisture level that even someone with the most basic level of experience is assured success.
    Sadly, I have never managed to find APS in Europe. I used to use Seramis, which had a similar effect, but that is increasingly difficult to obtain in the UK.

    There is a laterite aquatic plant substrate available in the UK, which I supsect is similar to APS, but at ~11 ($17.50) per 20 oz I think I'll give it a miss
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    I always use for my old plant a peat vermiculite mixture (mixture WISTUBA advocated in its beginning), actually quite close to the substrates 'in situ'.

    Now to the plants rather latest purchased ,the moss and perlite mixture (more hydroponic) ensuring long roots, but quite brittle and in my personal try impossible to repot in the first mixture.

    I use in place of cypress bark , pouzzolane

    very very interessant this trichoderma utilisation .

    for me the laterite is not present on the top of the tepui ( see here tepui vegetation and soil to "habitat" , in french excuse me)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobile View Post
    Sadly, I have never managed to find APS in Europe. I used to use Seramis, which had a similar effect, but that is increasingly difficult to obtain in the UK.

    There is a laterite aquatic plant substrate available in the UK, which I supsect is similar to APS, but at ~11 ($17.50) per 20 oz I think I'll give it a miss

    Carl,

    As far as I know, Laterite's main use is to slowly leach iron and other trace nutrients into planted aquariums. It was first popularized by the Dupla company back in the day. In addition to that use, I have experimented a little with laterite in some Ozzie drosera applications. APS on the other hand is designed to not leach anything. It's main qualities are it's inertness, resistance to compaction and water absorption (30% LHC). It is a thermally enhanced (@1000-1500 degrees F) clay mineral product that is very porous (0.45 cc/g) and chemically stable.

    A product very similar to APS is sometimes used in kitty litter and some oil dry products. (But I don't recommend those for our use due to regional differences in formulations, additives and base minerals... )

    Butch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Av8tor1 View Post
    APS on the other hand is designed to not leech anything. It's main qualities are it's inertness, resistance to compaction and water absorption (30% LHC). It is a thermally enhanced (@1000-1500 degrees F) clay mineral product that is very porous (0.45 cc/g) and chemically stable.
    OK, this sounds like Seramis.

    A product very similar to APS is sometimes used in kitty litter and some oil dry products. (But I don't recommend those for our use due to regional differences in formulations, additives and base minerals... )
    Much of this in the UK is Diatomaceous earth based, for which I have had negative results with as a planting material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff 2 View Post
    I always use for my old plant a peat vermiculite mixture (mixture WISTUBA advocated in its beginning), actually quite close to the substrates 'in situ'.
    I'm wary of vermiculite as a CP growing medium component, with the exception of Mexican Pinguicula, as it can turn alkaline over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobile View Post

    Much of this in the UK is Diatomaceous earth based, for which I have had negative results with as a planting material.
    Ahhhh just the opposite on this side of the pond... mostly clay based here, comparatively very little use of DE in these apps

    After reading up on Seramis a little, it does sound very close...
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    I use the vermiculite since several year in all the acid substrate plants , with no problem , it is a very good 'allegeant'

    for me this one is more interessant than perlite with the blond peat.

    inside le perlite: SiO2 ; AlO3 ; FeO3; MgO ;Na2O ; K2O ; CaO

    vermiculite chimic formula : (H,Na,Ca1/2) (Mg Al2)Si4O10 (OH)2


    have you try to heliamphora : granite or sandstone very presence up there on the tepui ?

    jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff 2 View Post
    have you try to heliamphora : granite or sandstone very presence up there on the tepui ?
    This is the reason for me being wary of vermiculite on acid loving plants: http://www.schundler.com/pH.htm, but maybe peat buffers it? I've never tried granite, but it would be easy for me to obtain as I live near Aberdeen, Scotland - which is known as the granite city. In fact, there is an abandoned granite quarry within a couple of miles from where I live.

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