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"Eden Black" -- F1

  • #62
Yeah, I saw that; but since I received seed a little late in the game; was concerned for its viability, and pressed for time -- decided upon the TC route . . .
Please don't get me wrong, I wasn't questioning your motive for TC... just found it really interesting on the speed these seeds have matured in traditional cultivation.
 
  • #63
Hi BigBella, I am new to terraforums and am a tcer myself. I focus on asymbiotic germination of Cypripedium species (lady slippers), however I have been dipping my hands into the tissue of cps as well. I was wondering how the EB - F1 seeds have fared? I am entering this thread a bit late, but was also curious what media you used, some variation of ms? Have you tried ceph meristem? Any luck avoiding phenolic oxidation?
 
  • #64
The Eden Black x Self seeds have done well and several have formed friable root or shoot-forming calli (I'll post photos when I have the chance); and the media have ranged from dilute MS (1:4 or 1:3) with NAA; to 2:3 Knudsen-C; to a proprietary, low ammonium media being developed. While I haven't used meristematic tissue for TC, I have successfully used "vegetative" leaves of Cephalotus; juvenile pitchers; flower stalks; seed and rhizome tissue.

Phenolic "issues" can largely be avoided by handling the explants carefully during sterilization and by frequent re-plating (often within the same container) should discoloration occur; it eventually stops, though many tropical and sub-tropical plants are particularly high in phenolic compounds . . .
 
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  • #65
I was wondering how the EB - F1 seeds have fared? I am entering this thread a bit late, but was also curious what media you used, some variation of ms? Have you tried ceph meristem? Any luck avoiding phenolic oxidation?

Here is a photo of a root-forming callus (as opposed to those producing shoots or leaves) of the "selfed" seed mentioned earlier. Root formation is often the weakest link in terms of tissue cultured plants; and commercial growers -- to cut costs -- often transfer "plantlets" of many species to compost to root ex vitro. I have found that Cephalotus, in particular, is far more successful and vigorous if there is something more substantial below the soil . . .

Cephalotus follicularis "Eden Black x Self"
25 August

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I was also very encouraged by the bright red coloration of the earliest "vegetative" leaves on another callus, even under the moderate lighting conditions of a growing room:

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  • #66
That's for the update. I keep checking this thread to see how everyones seedlings are coming along. I'm excited and I don't even have one!
 
  • #67
Here are a couple of other shots of root-producing calli in Muroshige-Skoog-based multiplication media -- both of which currently look like something out of a Lovecraft story:

Cephalotus follicularis "Eden Black x Self" 28 August

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  • #68
it's alive... ALIVE!! :mwahaha:
 
  • #69
Thats Freakin awesome David. Way far ahead from where my seedlings are.
 
  • #70
Thats Freakin awesome David. Way far ahead from where my seedlings are.

Thanks Rob. Here's a shot of one of the "explants" producing something which actually resembles a plant:

Cephalotus follicularis "Eden Black x Self" 30 August
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  • #71
Here is an update on some of the cultures. While somewhat difficult to see in the photos, I have been encouraged by the depth of color in the first flat "vegetative" leaves (seen as a fringe along the top of the 18 September photo) -- produced after transfer to a media without any plant growth regulators (PGRs). They are of a deep, deep red, similar to that seen in a kidney bean . . .

Cephalotus follicularis "Eden Black x Self" 28 August
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18 September

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  • #72
Looks like some wierd alien spider growing in there! Great color forming already though!
 
  • #74
very cool old friend, these seem like they have been a pita for ya.... and you da tc guru

looks like they are going to make for some very special looking cephs
 
  • #75
It's nice to look at these small plants :)
 
  • #76
Looks like some wierd alien spider growing in there! Great color forming already though!

I was just thinking that it looked like an alien spider haha!!
 
  • #77
Cool Creating Life Forms!
.. :alien:
:spider:
 
  • #78
Here is the last update for 2012 of one of several Cephalotus cultures; and some appear to look promising . . .

Cephalotus follicularis "Eden Black x Self" 10 December
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  • #79
quite promising..
 
  • #80
Looks like some wierd alien spider growing in there! Great color forming already though!

You're so right! That totally looks like a baby tarantula!
 
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