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Thread: Heliamphora minor var. pilosa

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    I don't want to take this much further, but it seems that I have to give one last post on that - I'm really sorry!

    I think I know Andreas well enough to know why he sends a replacement and I don't questions his disicion! Why should I?

    You can't compare the adult pitchers from your plant with those from butch, when he got his plant - you have a different stage of adult leafs on your specimen! As you know for sure there are up to three diiferent stages of adult leafs.

    I already told that I didn't choose my words correctly and "always" was indeed not the right choice! But first I didn't address you at all (just Av8tor) and second of all you just start telling stuff which is not true...
    Andreas has no problems growing them since I have seen many pots in his private collection with very nice hairy pitchers - he really has perfect conditions. This species is not really more demanding than other Heliamphora - there might be generall questions/experiment for some growers, like what is the best soil to grow Heliamphora, etc.. What happens IV is a different thing where I have no info if it's easy or hard to grow!

    I don't need to be jealous my friend, belief me - I've everything and more I ever wanted to grow successfully! The reason for my first post I mentioned already.

    I just wanted to share my experience with this species since I grow quite some fully adult specimens and also raise them from seeds as well...

    It just seems to be a small misunderstanding or misinterpretation from my side from Av8tor1's post and I really don't want to comment on that again! I apologized to Av8tor1 and that's all I can do and I guess he didn't took it too serious or personal (at least I hope so)...

    And Don: I totally agree with you! I didn't mean this post (neither in particular this forum!). ;-)


    Cheers
    Marc

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    "I don't want to take this much further"

    -I guest its stronger than you right?

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    "I think I know Andreas well enough to know why he sends a replacement"

    -Nice to know an Andreas's close friend

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    "As you know for sure there are up to three diiferent stages of adult leafs"

    -No i didnt know that, any serious reference on internet for this? im curious to read more. For me an adult pitcher is an adult pitcher. On a very young plant, the adult ones are just smaller. Anyway my mexican friend have hair on the FIRST little adult pitcher.

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    "I already told that I didn't choose my words correctly and "always" was indeed not the right choice"

    -Next time choose the right one, because its hard to understand. And my English is far to be perfect, so its harder for me.

    You said:"My plant is extremely hairy, but the first adult pitchers are always hairless outside!" And this was not true. That why i react because its a false statement. Im sure you can understand my position.

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    "But first I didn't address you at all"

    -Are you trying to say i cannot reply to a post in a public forum?

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    "Andreas has no problems growing them since I have seen many pots in his private collection with very nice hairy pitchers - he really has perfect conditions"

    -Perfect conditions are impossible to reach my friend, even for andreas. But i agree he is very close.
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    "I don't need to be jealous my friend"

    Your reaction prove it

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    "I just wanted to share my experience with this species"

    -No, you enter this thread with a massive upset post, not sharing your experience.
    Its a public forum, and before your intervention, everything was fine and smooth.

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    "It just seems to be a small misunderstanding or misinterpretation from my side "

    -i agree

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    "I grow quite some fully adult specimens and also raise them from seeds as well"

    -Like many other growers, nothing special there.

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    Marc, i know you are an experienced grower and a nice person.
    I didnt want to upset you, but what you said was not true, even if you are experienced, more than me. Now i know that you chose the wrong sentence.

    I hope we will be friend in a near futur, im not a bad guy.

    Francois
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    We, knights of the fuzzy sock are indeed a passionate bunch... Marc, Francois, DonH, BigBella, et. al.,

    Marc, while I admit your statement took me back at first... the explanation and apology is more than enough.
    I too have come to the defence of AW when I felt his was being unfairly maligned (on this very forum many moons ago)

    Let's just get the thread back on track and post some more nice pics and tips please

    :-)

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    Camelot is a silly place...

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    LOL av, and andreas hold the cup?

    By the way, im curious, do you have to pay the shipping or its 100% free of charge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Av8tor1 View Post
    We, knights of the fuzzy sock are indeed a passionate bunch... Marc, Francois, DonH, BigBella, et. al.,

    Marc, while I admit your statement took me back at first... the explanation and apology is more than enough.
    I too have come to the defence of AW when I felt his was being unfairly maligned (on this very forum many moons ago)

    Let's just get the thread back on track and post some more nice pics and tips please

    :-)
    Let's get back on track! ;-)


    @Maiden: No, I don't have a serious reference for that. But if you have grown for example pulchella or ionasii from juvenile plants until they get fully adult with the typical pitcher shape, you may have seen that also the adult leafs change a lot in shape and other features like the bristles and hairs inside. H. ionasii as well as H. pulchella first have a more pronounced short indumentum (with no or few short bristles) on the inside of the first adult pitchers. Fully adult leafs later just have bristles and no (or lets say reduced) indumentum. Also the nectar spoon is changing shape and/or "position" slithly. Hope I could still convince you also without reference...?
    (If not I could maybe add some pictures to illustrate it a bit!?)

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    Hello marc

    I grow pulchella from akopan and amuri.
    Right now i have many baby plants, i will try to check the evolution

    I think you touch a point with the shape difference. I noticed a gradation evolution from pitcher to pitcher on my young adult plants, -for example my burgundy-black first new pitcher was very tiny and the next one was bigger, but i didnt know about the 3 stages you talked about.

    Thx for the info

    Francois

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maiden View Post
    LOL av, and andreas hold the cup? ..........
    Yep, the " Grail"


    From one of my fav movies of all time (Monty Python and the Holy Grail)
    Classic cheese :-)

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