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    Quote Originally Posted by afrodisa View Post
    In the more info category - only place I've seen ph info listed (well I saw one other but have lost the url over the years).

    http://translate.googleusercontent.c...uQ#Publication
    Great information! Thanks form the link. And that one of the reasons I wanted this thread. No more lost info.
    Added to the list! I've had a hard time finding any in-situ information. Thanks for this tidbit.

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    a few updates

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    I'm just curious, I have a ceph that is coming up on a year old and it put out one final pitcher after a growth spurt.
    Now, one by one, the smaller pitchers are shriveling. Is this normal?
    I wanted to get some experience because I've never seen a disproportionate pitcher like this.
    If this is the wrong thread, apologies!

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    No this is not normal, I can't get a larger image to get a close-up on the pitchers but it looks like the newest one is browning on the stem. If so its a lost pitcher, not good for the newest growth. It also looks like all the lids on the pitchers are closed? That is a sure sign that something is wrong. If the Ceph was recently moved from a high humidity to lower humidity spot the lids will close until the plant gets used to its new location. Lots of other things will cause this also, such as too much heat.

    Since there are a hundred options on how to grow a Ceph and 90 of them are right, I'd post it up in its own thread with a close-up of the pitchers and the crown so you can get more input and make a decision on what to do next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgivs View Post
    I'm just curious, I have a ceph that is coming up on a year old and it put out one final pitcher after a growth spurt.
    Now, one by one, the smaller pitchers are shriveling. Is this normal?
    I wanted to get some experience because I've never seen a disproportionate pitcher like this.
    If this is the wrong thread, apologies!
    anything ceph related is welcome here! I hope the ceph bounced back for you.


    im still trying to dig up some info concerning soil samples taken in the wild. If anyone has that infomation that would be great.

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    Funny you should mention this as I have first hand experience of what their natural habitat is like- I used to live in it. And I used to dig up the soil to see what it was like for myself because I was interested also in what it was made up of. I used to live in Bunbury over 15 years ago now. We were in a new housing estate and I had only just found out about Venus Flytraps on a recent visit to a local gardening centre and my parents allowed me to purchase one, which I quickly killed because I wasn’t given proper instructions on how to care for it. I soon got the gift of Tony Camilleri's book on Carnivorous Plants (a worthwhile read and beautifully photographed) that came out that year which sparked off a wider interest in CPs. Anyway our house backed onto virgin bushland and sometimes I used to go out there and would find native sundews everywhere, along with kangaroo paws and other native plants.

    Because they were still developing the land around our house and turning it into suitable sites for new houses to be built on all the bushland that I used to find sundews in was slowly and completely destroyed within the space of a year and all levelled with new houses at our time of leaving and thinking back now a whole entire community of CPs was wiped out over quite a large area and nobody even knew about it except me. I tried to dig up some of the sundews to save them and can say the soil was pretty much just sand with a little organic matter mixed in. Because I would wash them under the tap outside to clean them before potting them in pots using the same natural soil( thinking I was washing off any parasites) I found them in, they always died and I think it was because the water I washed them with had chlorine/minerals in it. I only collected about a handful and after they all died within about a week gave up on saving any more and forgot about CPs for a long time until I moved to another state.

    Anyway I always only ever thought the Albany Pitcher Plant only came from Albany ( or around that more southern region) and I never bothered looking for it and didn’t ever venture more than about 100 meters away from the back of my house. The bushland was open enough that their was a lot of diffused light but not to the extent that their was much grass growing, it seemed to be mainly sandy soil with a bit of detritus on top and a lot of open space with only patches of grass here and their and large trees providing shade. The soil was black due to the organic matter being mixed with it and seemed to be mainly sand( 90%) and a little organic matter. I'm recalling this from memories made over 15 years ago so may not be correct but just thought the info might be useful.

    Only recently after looking at the Albany Pitcher Plants range on wikipedia did I see that it is found in a wider area than just Albany, and in fact Bunbury was included in it’s range! So looking back now I daresay their were lots of Albany Pitcher Plants out their growing behind my house but I was too stupid to realize this and missed a great opportunity to see them in the wild.

    True story, the place I used to live was called Eaton, in Bunbury WA. The water there is so acidic it stains the fences a brown colour and must have been prime habitat for the Albany Pitcher Plant. The funny thing is I still have never seen a Albany Pitcher Plant in person as I moved to Queensland later and thought it might be too hot here. I see some people are growing them in much hotter climates than mine and I am starting to think it might be a good idea to finally go ahead and purchase an Albany Pitcher Plant as I have always liked their look, it’s so cute, and I think their good value for money as their the only non tropical CP that grows all year round, doesn’t need dormancy , can grow as a houseplant in low light, and produces large quantities of really amazing and elaborate pitchers all year round of such detail that they really look rewarding to grow and a feast for the eyes. They have so much character and really seem like little individuals and have a unique "personality" about them.

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    Thats really cool that you got to live in the same habitat as these plants, but unfortunate that you never got to see one. What you said at the end "... [they] really seem like little individuals and have a unique "personality" about them" I totally agree. My mom always says that her favorite plant is the Cephalotus for the same reason. They're kinda cute little monsters.

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    Thanks for putting all of this together!! It's great for me as a non-Ceph owner, since I plan to get one sometime this spring and will read everything I can beforehand. This thread makes that really convenient.

    I personally would love to see someone do soil analyses of the native soil across Cephalotus' range.

    Any chance this could be developed into a sticky?

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    Macca - Thank for you sharing this information! First hand experience is exactly what I was searching to find. I'm glad you stopped by to share your story, as bittersweet as it was. I wish you could have seen them in the wild. Maybe life will have you in that direction soon and you will be able to fulfill your dream!

    Lots of sand and soil stained black with some organic matter. I can't help but wonder what the matter might be....

    Theplantman - thanks for your kind words. That was my goal and I'm glad you found use out of the thread.

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    While working on my Emu Point Army I figured someone might find this useful.

    Here is something I think a lot of the newer people don't realize. When I have a leaf pull fail for whatever reason I try to reuse the pot by just planting a new leaf of the same clone slightly off where the old leaf was and here is the reason I do that.

    This particular pot was overgrown with moss so I tend to remove the top 1/4" of medium and replace it with fresh medium. Here is the view from what the top of the pot looked like, nice dead failed leaf pull. Without the mess of moss I would have just replanted a second leaf pull of the same clone and no harm done.

    DSC_0054 by randallsimpson, on Flickr

    When I have this moss cap I always do a root check just to be sure. Yep its a very tiny Ceph.

    DSC_0053 by randallsimpson, on Flickr

    I've had a lot of Ceph leaves completely decay to the point you could not even tell there was ever a leaf in the pot and ended up with a plantlet weeks or even months later. So now if the medium is still good I just replace a new leaf of the same clone and I know I'm not throwing away a Ceph with the medium.

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