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    Quote Originally Posted by afrodisa View Post
    Another link for "Other" (I finally found it)

    http://translate.googleusercontent.c...af_O4U6WnZU0yg


    While there checkout the links at the bottom of the page :>}
    That is a great site. lots of good info in it. Thanks for sharing. Link added above!

    pretty good info about the soil. Reminds me of Av8tors thread about miracle gro.

    http://www.terraforums.com/forums/sh...hlight=miracle

    I still havent tried a pulling in miracle gro yet but it is a test I want to recreate. just need to buy the dirt. I have a few leaves I can spare from my bigger plants. might be my weekend project.

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    Can't believe I missed the Miracle Grow thread. So much info out there titled so the searches don't find it.

    Just added APS and Miracle Grow to my shopping list for the weekend. I can always count on the Emu's to provide me with all the leaves I'll ever want. Oddly the 'Big Boy' clone is doing the same thing for me, leaf overload.

    I am testing 9 leaf pulls on the seed starting sponges right now they are just over a month old and only 1 has rotted, I figured I'd lose atleast half within a week. No visible growth yet, but 7 of them still look really healthy.

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    This cracks me up, such goofballs: http://www.sarracenia.com/trips/au032007/im20.html

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    I have used a mix that was mostly Turface, Perlite, and a little peat. That mix was less than 10% peat. The plants are growing well. As a matter of fact the German Giant picture I posted earlier is growing in this mix.
    http://www.terraforums.com/forums/sh...ant-cephalotus

    So they do grow, and look quite happy in a completely inorganic mix. However there are a few things I do not like about the mix, and I believe the results will be the same in APS/Turface. The roots are really long, but very thin and fan like. I have since starting repotting my plants out of this mix because of that reason. If you want those big meaty roots Av8tor has in the miacle gro thread you will need more peat in the mix.

    How's the sponge test going? Glad you are going to jump in on the miracle gro with you own tests! Hopefuly we will have similar results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mass View Post
    This cracks me up, such goofballs: http://www.sarracenia.com/trips/au032007/im20.html
    lol. hilarious!!!

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    http://www.sarracenia.com/trips/au032007/im22.html

    I wonder what kind of moss that is that the cephs are growing in. If it doesn't add any nutrients to the soil or change the pH in any way, it may benefit those who grow smaller CP's as a soil dressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcal View Post
    So they do grow, and look quite happy in a completely inorganic mix. However there are a few things I do not like about the mix, and I believe the results will be the same in APS/Turface. The roots are really long, but very thin and fan like. I have since starting repotting my plants out of this mix because of that reason. If you want those big meaty roots Av8tor has in the miacle gro thread you will need more peat in the mix.

    How's the sponge test going? Glad you are going to jump in on the miracle gro with you own tests! Hopefuly we will have similar results.
    I'm becoming a big fan of inorganic mixes but you still need a water retention component in there, I think that would fix your thin root problem. I'm still about 1/4th-1/3rd peat in all of my mixes. Still looking for an inorganic peat replacement. But if the MG works I may just have to rethink everything, life would be so much simpler. With some of the odd stuff I've done with Cephs it would not surprise me if it worked just fine. So much information out there is from a few growers many years ago and what they could not get to work got passed down as law.

    So far I can't see the sponge leaf pulls doing anything, but for a leaf pull to still be healthy and green after a month I would assume it had rooted.

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    http://www.sarracenia.com/trips/au032007/im22.html

    I wonder what kind of moss that is that the cephs are growing in. If it doesn't add any nutrients to the soil or change the pH in any way, it may benefit those who grow smaller CP's as a soil dressing.
    Moss is evil

    Really it is....

    To be fair I've never noticed any ill effects from the mosses besides the moss outcompeting the plant and covering it up. I've went to great lengths in the past to remove/kill moss.

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    The link to the Italian website was great an quite a nice subject read. He also states about clones which is all to correct, an this was written in 2007. So to sum it up stops a lot of arguments and problems.

    Would be interesting to speak to the author of the information to see if he still collects an to see if he carried on any further studies on the plants

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