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    Another link that might be good to add to the list, its new but in a year or two it will get buried.

    http://www.terraforums.com/forums/sh...-43-March-2014



    On a related topic, I've been wanting to start a list of what/when/where/how/why for the Ceph clones that are out there. I think this would be the best place to add it. I have tried to label each name correctly as they should appear on labels please correct me if I've made an error. I have cut and pasted a lot of the information as I believe one of the source websites is no longer being maintained and is only a matter of time before its dead.

    I would prefer to leave any clone off the list that we don't have some source information about. "Random X giant - Its 3" big" is not really useful.

    So here is all I know...

    The three easy ones, these are registered with the ICPS and are the only "recognized" clones. There is a lot of debate as to whether or not there is actually any real difference between any of these clones or any of the unregistered clones. I would prefer not to flood this thread this that discussion, the link above would be a better source for that debate.

    Cephalotus follicularis cv. 'Clayton's T Rex' - http://www.carnivorousplants.org/cpn...5_152.html#rex
    Cephalotus follicularis cv. 'Hummer's Giant' - http://www.carnivorousplants.org/cpn...2.html#hummers
    Cephalotus follicularis cv. 'Eden Black' - http://www.carnivorousplants.org/cpd...p?cp_id=173546

    Cephalotus follicularis "Allen Lowrie" - From the best of my understanding this label simply implies a Ceph that was collected by Allen Lowrie that he believed had some interesting trait at the time of collection. Everything I've read implies that there could be 1-1000 different clones running around with this name.
    Cephalotus follicularis "Double Ribbed" - "This plant should develop a second side rib about three quarters of the way down form the top of the mouth of the plant. This feature tends to occur on adult pitchers much more than juvenile pitchers." Source http://thecephalotus.info/html/unusual__clones_.html
    Cephalotus follicularis location Emu Point, Albany AU (Also know as Emu Point and/or Emu Point Giant) -
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    The three "Emu Point" plants that I had provided Dennis Hastings, originated from leaf pulls that had either been grown on compost; or else, developed in vitro from that same tissue, from a single, wild-collected plant, taken legally (for the benefit of the inquisition that occasionally rears its head on TF) from the border of a parkland and cattle-grazing area. Some seed had also been collected; but those plants were never part of that initial shipment. Apparently, there had been some confusion there.

    Many of my plants have produced larger than "average" pitchers; though I have still had "typical" plants, from time to time, produce 2.5-3" leaves -- more a function of age and health, in my opinion, than the provenance of any particular cultivar or clone . . .
    "I have added this plant as an unusual clone because of the history it was given. This plant was seed grown from a mother plant originating in the Emu point region of southern Australia. It has been said the parent plant produced pitchers as large as three inches. Since this has been seed grown, there in no way to emphatically state this plant will grow up to be a giant also. I will keep this plant updated in a set of images to let you know how it does.

    I have since learned from the person I received the plant from, that the pitchers on the seed grown plants get to about 2.5 inches tall." Source http://thecephalotus.info/html/unusual__clones_.html
    Cephalotus follicularia "Phil Mann" - From the best of my understanding this label simply implies a Ceph that was collected by Phil Mann that he believed had some interesting trait at the time of collection. Everything I've read implies that there could be 1-1000 different clones running around with this name.
    Cephalotus follicularis "Squat" - "The “Squat” pitcher tends to be wider than the typical pitcher giving it a squatter appearance. The smaller pitchers on this plant have the shape of a bullet with a more rounded bottom." Source http://thecephalotus.info/html/unusual__clones_.html
    Cephalotus follicularia "vigorous" or "vigorous clumping" -
    "I have isolated this particular plant separate from the typical Cephalotus because of its exceptional traits, which I feel are different enough from the typical plants to warrant the special attention.

    Please note, these are my personal observations and in no way have any scientific basis other than visual comparison of a limited pool of regular (typical) Cephalotus. There are so many variables in growing these plants that your experience with the plant may be entirely different from mine.

    Having said that, I have found these “vigorous” clones to be faster growing than the typical forms with pitchers around 2.25” and have more of the course texture like that of a hummer’s giant but not as large.

    My original plant came from a grower in the Los Angeles area. He was the first person I had heard, use the term “vigorous” to describe the clone. He indicated he had received his plant from Charles Brewer." Source Website no longer available

    "The “vigorous” plant comes from Gary Kong of Los Angeles who got it from Charles Brewer who is the person that took over propagating Hummer’s Giants from John Hummer.
    This plant was described to Gary as being a clone that tended to be a faster and more robust grower that the other regular Cephalotus he had seen. From the adult plants I have,
    I would agree. The pitchers at least for me max out at about 2”." Source E-mail from Dennis Hastings

    And that's all I have figured out over the years.

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    Great idea Randell. I'll dig through my notes and add what information I can to your list. Cephalotus history can be almost as interesting as the plants them self......almost.

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    Do you know who runs the "thecephalotus.info" site? I got this when I clicked on it:

    NOTICE: This domain name expired on 5/28/2014 and is pending renewal or deletion.

    Figured I'd say something just in case the owner doesn't update often or was unaware of the situation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rcl27 View Post
    Do you know who runs the "thecephalotus.info" site? I got this when I clicked on it:

    NOTICE: This domain name expired on 5/28/2014 and is pending renewal or deletion.

    Figured I'd say something just in case the owner doesn't update often or was unaware of the situation.

    Check my last post, about 3 up from yours, I believe it was the late Dennis Hastings site. I tried to copy/paste all the unique information from that site into that post so it would not go into the void.

    Another post referencing his passing http://icps.proboards.com/thread/5789.

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    I read the first three sentences of the paragraph you are referring to but skipped down to "So here is all I know...". It appears I skipped the most important sentence in relation to my post!

    Sad to hear that he died. It at least explains where Jeremiah obtained the majority of his Cephalotus.

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    it was a great site with lots of good info. I have deleted the link. I didnt get the pleasure of talking with him before he passed, but a wealth of info when with him.

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    a few updates added.

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