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Thread: My first potential Heliamphora cultivar, candidates?

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    Butchie Jr #1 - needs to learn how to shave soon and I am breaking out the wax for good measure



    Butchie Jr #2 - more colorful and less hairy. I was recounting how consuming an exorbitant amount of carrots can lead to carotenemia. I guess junior took it to heart.
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    ahhhhh my first born and the first of their kind, I'm so proud.... lololol

    Definitely can see a diff in those two siblings...
    #2 definitely shows more H. sarracenioides influence, does it have external pitcher hair?.... kind of hard to tell from pic

    I think there will be some nice cultivars from that group :-)

    Remember, I get a division if they turn out to be super awesome fantastic LOL

    I'll try to add a couple pics of mine in a few days

    Wonder how the NASC one is doing?
    (where are ya KPG? LOL)


    well done pokie
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    Do Heliamphora hybrids have a similar sort of vigor as Nepenthes hybrids, or no?
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    Good question.....

    Heliamphora is very species specific and beyond that, very individual specific.

    I have several crosses that were all done at the same time. Some hybrid populations are still all small and immature.
    Other crosses have specimens that became adults in under two years, while some siblings took a little longer, and some have yet to mature.

    This is true even though they have all been grown under the exact same conditions, and in the case of siblings, the same pot.
    So, in my experience, hybrid vigor does exist, but it's very individualized.
    This is one reason for selecting and naming a special cultivar, wink wink ;-)

    I would also assume the inverse is true as well, some are destined to be runts...

    I don't have any experience making Nepenthes hybrids, so I don't know if this is true of them... but I would have to assume so.
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    Lots of nepenthes hybrids are easier to grow than their parent species, I have never heard of a hybrid which was more difficult than the parent species.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoSarah View Post
    Lots of nepenthes hybrids are easier to grow than their parent species, I have never heard of a hybrid which was more difficult than the parent species.
    Apparently, you've never heard of Nepenthes burbidgea x edwardsiana...........

    Awesome looking plants Pokie. Quite a bit of variation going on between the 2. Good job growing them and kudos to Butch for making them !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu138 View Post
    Apparently, you've never heard of Nepenthes burbidgea x edwardsiana...........
    No, I had not...
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